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  1. #261
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    All classes gravitate towards 2 stats is pretty much a problem, but even if that isn't, there is very little choice. You choose 2 of 3 stats. It's pretty boring in the most boring way. At least with accuracy, you needed to balance these stats while also meeting an accuracy requirement. They're basically taking one of the most mindless substat systems in any game, and making it slightly more mindless. While I support the removal of accuracy, I think the bigger issue is that the other stats need to be changed and more secondary stats need to be added.
    Indeed. I really would like the secondary stats to be revamped to make them worth something and give sufficient complexity to allow multiple viable builds. I know this isn't the topic for this, but I think one way that SE could really shake things up is by changing the secondary attributes and traits up so that you can either focus on a build that maximizes your primary role (damage, aggro or healing) or one that maximizes your utility by strengthening the various buffs/debuffs you can apply (for example), or even linking some existing traits to certain stat values.
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  2. #262
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    Nighthawky2010's Avatar
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    Nighthawky Mlmlxix
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    Midgardsormr
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Bourne_Endeavor you are sooooo right about story not teaching you anything about your job mechanics. FF14/HW is my first MMO ever & it been great playing it for the past 3 years. I learn how to play my jobs the same way you did, YOUTUBE GUIDES, MR HAPPY VIDEOS, asking members in the FC. I personally thought HALL OF NOVICE would have given more tutorial lesson but it is what it is. I do like the idea if they would implement a INTERMEDIATE HALL to show new players how to do their rotations.

    I have no issue with the jump potion, it a player's choice if they want to use it or not. again as you stated they are skipping the story.
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  3. #263
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Indeed. I really would like the secondary stats to be revamped to make them worth something and give sufficient complexity to allow multiple viable builds. I know this isn't the topic for this, but I think one way that SE could really shake things up is by changing the secondary attributes and traits up so that you can either focus on a build that maximizes your primary role (damage, aggro or healing) or one that maximizes your utility by strengthening the various buffs/debuffs you can apply (for example), or even linking some existing traits to certain stat values.
    With the removal of classes, it seems more likely however that even if secondary stats are made more balanced (e.g. high Skill Speed builds becoming viable), we'll probably only head further from multiple builds. I wouldn't be surprised even if they just change out all primary stats to role + ilvl.

    I always just wanted to see the original system revamped a bit, wherein all 6 primary stats were in some way viable, be that in traditional or niche builds, for every class/job, and most gear wasn't so class-split. I just wanted to see that taken even further, and more visual and gameplay impact given to each.
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    Separately, on the topic of leveling potions:

    Merely leveling doesn't necessarily teach a damn thing. Reading one's tooltips thoroughly and actually thinking about how to apply them accordingly is a better indicator that you will soon do well than having spent 60 levels getting there (just as likely spamming Full Thrust). I don't think it's a good turn for the game, and denies us certain better options, but the idea that it's going to newly or uniquely cripple the skill-floor of our newly (pre-SB) level-capped seems a bit ridiculous.
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  4. #264
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    Nighthawky2010's Avatar
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    Nighthawky Mlmlxix
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    FinalWolf..i totally understand..after the 2nd book, i stop doing the animus weapon process.
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  5. #265
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    Claymore65's Avatar
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    Cress Valorblade
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    Mateus
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Just in case people weren't aware, there's now a full translation available on Gamer Escape.

    http://gamerescape.com/2016/11/15/fa...-fan-festival/
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  6. #266
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    RukiaFae's Avatar
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    Rukia Fae
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    Goblin
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    Goldsmith Lv 78
    So he did ignore her clothes and job on purpose. Now everyone can stop staying he said they are both Monks. Her job is open to speculation. What did he mean by somthing is off in the trailer if you played 1.0? Good interview.
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    Last edited by RukiaFae; 11-17-2016 at 11:48 PM.

  7. #267
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    So male white mage gear will be less feminine. Good.
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  8. #268
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    RosaLunaCelestia's Avatar
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    Luna Luorc'a
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    Moogle
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    About potion . Really after all comments for and against, think.

    Lets newbies be happy and join their friend already at 4.0.

    He is new but want enjoy 4.0 with this friend already at 4.0. Why stop them ? ;(

    If it was you the newby , you want join ur friend at 4.0. well u wil buy a potion and Wow u can play with him enjoy play together !

    Then, lets pple spend their money as they wish and be happy

    Here a comment of someone who was against and now is not against
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  9. #269
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    FinalWolf's Avatar
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    Rex Inferorum
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    Malboro
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by RosaLunaCelestia View Post
    About potion . Really after all comments for and against, think.

    Lets newbies be happy and join their friend already at 4.0.

    He is new but want enjoy 4.0 with this friend already at 4.0. Why stop them ? ;(

    If it was you the newby , you want join ur friend at 4.0. well u wil buy a potion and Wow u can play with him enjoy play together !

    Then, lets pple spend their money as they wish and be happy

    Here a comment of someone who was against and now is not against
    If I was new I would care about being good at the game without causing trouble for my "friend" in dungeons but that's just me though.
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  10. #270
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    Zojha's Avatar
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Quote Originally Posted by FinalWolf View Post
    If I was new I would care about being good at the game without causing trouble for my "friend" in dungeons but that's just me though.
    And so you would read your tooltips, ask your friend for a quick advice if things are unclear and thus figure something decent out in 10 minutes?

    Or are you one of those people that needs a guide to realize that a flat 20% more physical damage with no tradeoff is good, 180 is bigger than 140, 15% more overall damage is good and 110x5 = 550 > 320 ?
    It's not rocket science >_> Until you get to raiding and want to unlock those last few percent of your potential anyhow.
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