Please dont Unsync hw content next patch,system has already ruined the older content

[Moururii]

I can't defend the attitude of people not helping out and supporting newbies, but there are already many systems in place to encourage better treatment of new players. Unfortunately some people just aren't willing, it can't be helped unless they're especially abusive about it.

You really just need to accept that the majority of the community does not cater to you, XIV is a game designed to get new players and returning players up to date and at the current end game. Yes it pushes a lot of old content to the side, I'd even agree that's a shame, but it's just the nature of it. You either need to get over that fact or find people who'll go at your pace.

[Serilda]

On my server (which is tiny) we have new players putting up party finders all the time asking to do this or that without using the unsynced feature or rushing through with an optimal strat in place already from YouTube (zzz). And the party finders groups fill up, because old players like the second chance points for WT and the fun of helping new people experience things for the first time. Fun.

It seems very elitist to assume that just because someone sucks at mechanics they have been carried. I suck at mechanics too and so does everyone in my static. We don't prepare in advance for new content and prefer to work it out ourselves, so there are constantly wipes and mistakes at first until we figure everything out. None of us have been carried since we all do everything together, and even if we had I'm not sure being carried through Haukke would naturally make us any more or less foolish in Qarn. But when we finally get it right we're all over the moon. Terrible players have feelings too.

Furthermore, there's a big difference in difficulty even with synced parties. Back when HW dungeons were new we'd have people dying from time to time, now I run them in cleric stance the entire time and rarely need to cast a single heal spell even when level synced. So what's the point in blocking content from those who enjoy making their own challenges and having fun, just because a small number of people incorrectly believe that they can bring the past back? It's gone. But there are still ways to have fun without it.

Unsynced is a lifesaver for my group as it comes (sadly) bundled with undersized which actively increases the difficulty of some mechanics and lets us have fun on sightseeing trips or crazy suicidal challenges. It's also good for groups with special requirements who don't want to drag a full party of strangers down, such as non-English speakers in a game where servers are either designated English-speaking or Japanese-speaking with no middle ground for outsiders. Or to let shy players train a little before making the leap into Duty Finder out of respect for their fellow players, rather than destroying the game for themselves by cramming on YouTube first. Or players who want to chill and see content around family life or unsociable working hours. Removing it would hurt more people than it helps.

And King Moggle Mog groups have always crashed and burned. That's not unsynced's fault, it's because the fight is actually tricky and demands a modicum of basic teamwork.

[bswpayton]

Obviously you guys didnt read my post I said nothing about removing unsync I said dont do it with hw content which I know will happen anyway. Im not an elitiest at all how could I be an elitist if im literally begging for a chance to just do content at its regular item level so I cant just face roll it. I'm saying that if they continue the trend then a ton of content will be pointless and a wasteland esp if they start allowing people to use jump potions whats good about parts of the game being totally worthless. Obviously other new players want to do this content the right way are they wouldnt be queing up for it , I see many people with leafs in this content and it seems noone has the tolerance for them. And they may just go ahead and do it unsync because nobody will even give them a chance to learn the fight, so no i didnt say mess up the current system. I said why make 75 percent of your game meaningless if they continue the same trend.

[joannaluttrell]

Stuff.

You don't seem to realize that if old content was not available to unsynch then the people who prefer it that way just won't run that content at all... it is not magically going to make people that want to faceroll shit change their minds.

Obviously other new players want to do this content the right way are they wouldnt be queing up for it , I see many people with leafs in this content and it seems noone has the tolerance for them.

Why do you need those people? If so many new players want to do this content there should be no problem finding 7 others to do it with.

Once again: Open party finder and make a synced group for whatever duty you want. Invite people. Do content.

[bswpayton]

You don't seem to realize that if old content was not available to unsynch then the people who prefer it that way just won't run that content at all... it is not magically going to make people that want to faceroll shit change their minds.

edit: Once again: Open party finder and make a synced group for whatever duty you want. Invite people. Do content.

I think the only solution to solve this problem is when they allow us to bring squadrons into dungeons. And its really not so much the fact that people dont run them its that people have no tolerance for the learning process and unsyc goes with this. The fact that people will run the first three dungeons over and over with them actually taking 30 mins each. But yet people will abandon a extreme primal because its hard content and thats my problem Ive set up parties and Ive even gone in sync and everyone said so we dont whip lets come back unsyc to me thats a problem.

[Serilda]

Obviously you guys didnt read my post I said nothing about removing unsync I said dont do it with hw content which I know will happen anyway.

If you remove unsynced from HW content it will spoil the game for a lot of people when SB comes out (I think undersized should be entirely separate from unsynced but for whatever reason they're the same option right now). People use undersized/unsynced interchangeably so I'm here to defend the option in its entirety until they separate it. Then I'll continue to defend unsynced anyway for classic content because fun is important and it gives players who like a challenge more options for silly solo antics. I play on a Japanese server so people aren't jerks to sprouts but if that's happening then you definitely need to set up a party finder specifically to learn the fight. Or ask the mentors in the novice network to come and help. That's why a lot of them signed up to be mentors; I'd join if I saw a PF like that just for fun and I know there must be plenty of mentors on your server who think the same way. Forcing everyone to do it the 'hard' way won't ever stop people being jerks and leaving when new players are present. The whole roulette mentality is what causes that, not unsynced mode, and frankly getting all of the impatient mount farmers out of the DF pool is saving you from even more dramatic people leaving whenever you don't clear first time.

I'd quite like squadrons to come in too but actually mechanically difficult content will never be possible with squadrons. Even with unsynced it will be a challenge to solo a fair bit of coil, even more so with seven lunatic NPCs running around to mess everything up.

[bswpayton]

If you remove.

I like soloing stuff for weapons and stuff are testing myself , I just want something to be done , better rewards or something wt to me isnt doing enough. The reason I said hw is between arr and hw we are talkin about 50 plus dungeons etc that will just all go to nothing. Alexander and the likes will be like coil is now I havent raided in other games but I wouldnt think that other games have turned their raid content into faceroll stuff with minimum effort. I did coil 1 to 5 unsnyc in less than 30 mins it was meant to be hard I didnt care one bit about the gear I wanted the challenge , so I would take an npc option over an option to only do things unsync anyday.

[Legion88]

I wouldnt think that other games have turned their raid content into faceroll stuff with minimum effort.

In WoW, as example, there is no sync option at all, you are always unsynced, so far to your other games and overgearing and outleveling...

Most games i have played don't have the sync option, if you overgear/outlevel the dungeon you move on to the next difficulty or dungeon, all below is dead for you and there is no incentive to bring you back anytime, tbh they were mostly f2p.

[Aramina]

but I wouldnt think that other games have turned their raid content into faceroll stuff with minimum effort..

You'd be wrong. The biggest sub-based MMO is World of Warcraft and there is even less of a reason (or ability) to do older content at level.

[bswpayton]

In WoW, as example, there is no sync option at all, you are always unsynced, so far to your other games and overgearing and outleveling...

Most games i have played don't have the sync option, if you overgear/outlevel the dungeon you move on to the next difficulty or dungeon, all below is dead for you and there is no incentive to bring you back anytime, tbh they were mostly f2p.

ok so yea I wouldnt be wrong for queing into something at my level so there is really no enlargement , i que in to do the fight as a new person to the game and its the vets that que that know it can be new people in the que so its there fault if they dont prepare themselves for whips. So If im in the right story progression which is the level 50 stuff how am I in the wrong you just said that they donnt have unsnyc so Im queing for something Im suppose to be doing so I shouldnt be in question.