Please dont Unsync hw content next patch,system has already ruined the older content

[bswpayton]

I've made a post about Castrum and Ultima , not realizing that the other content was just as bad. I feel whats going on is where as people who started playing the game sense 1.0 til now got three years of playing up to this point. New players now I think have cut that time into probably about 2 months. Because whats happening is Unsync has just taken over the older content making it irrelevant, is it ok that in a three year old game that only 25 percent of it is still considered relevant. Unsync to me has created a system of well you don't have to be good at the game , ur fc can carry you the whole way. For example I went pony farming, I have beaten garuda extreme, so I felt like i deserved it when I ran it unsync with my fc, when I got to titan I chose to roll on the mount because I didn't deserve it because I sucked at the fight. I think that if Unsync happens for hw content it will make the game even worse for players just getting by without knowing the fights.

[Lambdafish]

I agree. I don't think that removing the unsync feature is the right thing to do, but SE definitely needs to re-evaluate the rewards for doing content unsynced. There also needs to be a far higher incentive to go synced and min item level than there currently is.

[bswpayton]

I agree.

I tried to que in for crystal tower, binding coil, ifrit extreme got in once, the others I didn't even get in. Hec I even qued in to garuda with a party before, I was ready to go and other players where like lets reque and come back unsync so we wont whip. Its's really really bad , I did binding coil with my fc yesterday and I just knew that I was just destroy content that prob use to be pretty challenging. I totally agree with the vet rewards tho, I would of put in the heading but I ran out of space, but there needs to be way better rewards and plenty of them to make this content relevant again. It's just creating a carry me mentality if it took some vets months to get past certain content then as long as it doesnt prevent me from moving on in the story then let it take me that long. I want to be good, and I feel like that's a small percentage of the population now, and that vets dont even give others a chance sometimes.

[Moururii]

Even if the old raids+trails weren't unsyncable it still wouldn't be relevent content. If you want a challenge just go do the level 60 stuff. This is just the sort of game XIV is, content cycles out of relevence as new stuff comes in, being able to unsync stuff is only part of that and personally running content with less than the required number of members via this feature has been some of the most fun I've had.

If you STILL want to do the 50 content as it was intended then you're gonna have to find like minded people who are willing to do the content synced with you.

[bswpayton]

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If you STILL want to do the 50 content as it was intended then you're gonna have to find like minded people who are willing to do the content synced with you.

So do you think this creates a system for people staying around as long as the people that have stayed around sense 1.0? Whats fun about beating a boss that you could die to if you did as intended but unsych you can kill within a minutes time. I'm saying that whats happening is you are cutting the game down more and more, when the new patch comes out nobody is gona wana do arr, or hw. Because nobody is gona care , lets be honest here alot of people don't raid , I dont see how it helps the game to where people can literally get through the content in less than a month. And I don,t want to only do 50 content I want to do all content I want to be good at the level 60 dungeons just like I am in the level 15 one. Unsyc just takes the competitiveness out of the game.

[Moururii]

You're ignoring that it's not unsyncing alone that creates this situation. If you went to do Bismarck Ex or Ravana Ex now you would crush it and have a far easier time than it was at release. Unsync was created to make older content accessible to a larger number of people, this was particularly for the sake of Coil which has important plot that many people could not access.

The ability to do this content properly HAS NOT GONE ANYWHERE. At the same time they enabled undersized parties they also enabled the option to sync down to the minimum ilvl so if you really want to do this content properly, there you go. Once again I have to tell you that you'll need to find people willing to do the content with you synced, this is really no different than before. Many of the people doing it unsynced now would not have done it synced back in the day, and people wouldn't be doing it synced now because there's no reason to beyond glamour/completions sake.

This permeates through XIV's entire design philosophy, the way the vertical progression of gear works, the way crafting and gathering works, the way the old relic works. Old stuff either loses relevence or becomes more accessible, if you do not like that this is simply not the game for you. I'm not neccessarily defending this method of design, it has pros and cons, but it certainly seems set to remain the norm.

So yes, you can chew through all the 50 content very quickly, but there is still an entire endgame at 60 that will take up your time and the 50 content is NOT a natural difficulty progression into that.

[bswpayton]

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I totally understand what your saying but your missing what I'm saying, which is that vets want new players not to suck well guess what when you run everything Unsync its bound to happen. I'm saying wt simply isn't doing enough to make it to where its really worth it , what the other guy who posted said is their needs to be better rewards for doing it as intended. Do you really think that someone that's done Unsync everything up to Alexander is gona be able to do it properly when you actually cant ignore mchs . I did binding coil yesterday like I said with my fc I was a whm didn't even go below half health finished the first five turns in less than thirty minutes. What my post is saying is if they continue the trend with hw you are basically making i dono maybe like 50 to 70 dungeons and raids mean nothing you might as well take them out of the game. I was against a jump potion before now Im for it with Unsync basically the samething.

[Moururii]

I totally understand what your saying but your missing what I'm saying, which is that vets want new players not to suck well guess what when you run everything Unsync its bound to happen.

You're not understanding that all the optional content at 50 is NOT PART OF THE DIFFICULTY PROGRESSION. You don't need to do 50 content to learn to play better, just get started at 60, it's designed for you to come into it having not done anything at 50, especially now with Creator being a tier who's difficulty is more in line with Coil.

If you want to do the content as it was originally designed that's fine but please don't think that it is a neccessary part of improving as a player. Can it help? Sure in some cases, but there's a reason why this stuff is essentially off the main story path.

Arguably the game could do a better job at teaching new players, but removing the unsync feature wouldn't be doing that in the slightest, if anything it would be alienating more players from this older content.
I'm not at all against the idea of incentivising doing the content synced or better yet using the minimum ilvl sync function but this game already does a ton to get people back into older content, most people would much rather be driven to do new stuff.

[bswpayton]

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So like I said theirs a debate about a skip potion somewhere on the forums was 89 pages the last I checked. Any time I bring up older content then I get well just come on over to hw. So then why not just have a skip potion because the other content is clearly not worth it , I use to think that others wanted to learn and figure out each fight but it seems Im the minority here. Ive seen other new players Ive played with dying in like hakku manor, and I know they got carried through other dungeons to me they arent ready but guess what they still went to hw. And what will happen is people will leave the duty just like what happen to me last night in sunken temple when a new dps couldn't get the mchs right the tank left. You cant have both you cant expect people to be good if they get carried through the whole game and then leave when they screw up are even talk trash when they screw up.

[Frowny]

I totally understand what your saying but your missing what I'm saying, which is that vets want new players not to suck well guess what when you run everything Unsync its bound to happen.

Not sure how you came to that conclusion. An Ice Mage will always be an Ice Mage until someone calls him out. Him suddenly going into Titan EX synced isn't going to make him go "oh, I should use Fire 3!"

And honestly, the content people do unsynced they rarely do synced, ie. EX primals. Also, rotations change soooo drastically at 60 (looking at you, BLM), so doing the old side-content at 50 to "learn" is... honestly not worth much beyond challenge/story.