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  1. #11
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    WeekendSoja's Avatar
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    I don't really see why the feature is even being argued...as you said above, "let's be honest a lot of people don't even raid".

    The honesty here is sadly mirrored lol, because I see an even smaller community wanting to do content sync'd or minimum ilvl.

    As moururii said above, the feature allows for a wider scope of players to do irrelevant content. Take this away and I will see people wanting to do this content waiting "30+" minutes for df queue / pf.
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  2. #12
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    And for what it's worth, I haven't done any unsync'd content. It's all been at level.
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  3. #13
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    If dungeons weren't so boring im sure people would like to run them synced.
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  4. #14
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    Nic Pay
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    Quote Originally Posted by WeekendSoja View Post
    Its already happening now I mention I qued for ifrit extreme and crystal tower, and binding coil and got nothing. And I guess sure yea access to content, but if you arent willing to or wanting to learn the content whats the point In having a cake walk. Are you being dead when the battle ends, that's not an accomplishment you just got carried. And Im fine with the current system note I said dont do it to hw content with the next expansion, because it will make things even worse. I personally don't want a cake walk through content , the only reason I ran unsyc was so that I could see the story partsI will still go back and try and do it the natural way. My argument is this , is that its cutting the game time down, where it took people months and months for stuff you can get to the end of hw now in a month to me that doesnt create an environment for people to stay in the game a long time. SE can only pump out so much new content.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genaxx View Post
    If dungeons weren't so boring im sure people would like to run them synced.
    people run dungeons thats the easy stuff Ive had a que for every hard mood fifty dungeon nobody runs the raids are the extreme primals other than garuda
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  6. #16
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    So my question now is this I was on another post arguing about a skip potion and I was agaisnt it so really everyone says the content is outdated. So if its all about the new content then why not then running stuff unsync is essentially just that a skip potion. When I fought titan extreme I cleared it sure, but I was dead when I did if thats all that it takes then we might as well let new players skip all the content because nobody cares to do it. With content being outdated there is pretty much no argument for not having a skip potion.
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  7. #17
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    O'naha Lhavi
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    I totally understand what your saying but your missing what I'm saying, which is that vets want new players not to suck well guess what when you run everything Unsync its bound to happen.
    You're not understanding that all the optional content at 50 is NOT PART OF THE DIFFICULTY PROGRESSION. You don't need to do 50 content to learn to play better, just get started at 60, it's designed for you to come into it having not done anything at 50, especially now with Creator being a tier who's difficulty is more in line with Coil.

    If you want to do the content as it was originally designed that's fine but please don't think that it is a neccessary part of improving as a player. Can it help? Sure in some cases, but there's a reason why this stuff is essentially off the main story path.

    Arguably the game could do a better job at teaching new players, but removing the unsync feature wouldn't be doing that in the slightest, if anything it would be alienating more players from this older content.
    I'm not at all against the idea of incentivising doing the content synced or better yet using the minimum ilvl sync function but this game already does a ton to get people back into older content, most people would much rather be driven to do new stuff.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moururii View Post
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    So like I said theirs a debate about a skip potion somewhere on the forums was 89 pages the last I checked. Any time I bring up older content then I get well just come on over to hw. So then why not just have a skip potion because the other content is clearly not worth it , I use to think that others wanted to learn and figure out each fight but it seems Im the minority here. Ive seen other new players Ive played with dying in like hakku manor, and I know they got carried through other dungeons to me they arent ready but guess what they still went to hw. And what will happen is people will leave the duty just like what happen to me last night in sunken temple when a new dps couldn't get the mchs right the tank left. You cant have both you cant expect people to be good if they get carried through the whole game and then leave when they screw up are even talk trash when they screw up.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
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    Sadly, sync or unsync is not going to fix awareness. If the new DPS was failing that many mechanics than it would take a patient mentor to take the time to explain and wait.

    And if this DPS had the bonus message, he must have been doing really bad for the other guy to forgo potential second chance points.

    As moururii said, it's more beneficial to get caught up with everyone in heavensward than continue to bang your head against pre-hw content. The current game design caters to players constantly improving themselves at max level and using those skills to faceroll old content.

    Also, if you want to do content sync'd, try to use the party finder. You may find the eccentric group of friends who like sync'd content.
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    King Canadane
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    where as people who started playing the game sense 1.0 til now got three years of playing up to this point.
    I've been playing for six years.
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