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    Aviars Lightsworn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frowny View Post
    Difference between "willing" and "capable". Can anyone PvP? Sure. But the system is designed to basically put a wall up for newcomers and be a pain to scale over.
    You realize everyone has to deal with the same thing right? And here we go with the newcomer bit..... your sense of entitlement is showing sir.
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    Rai Dolabnha
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    You realize everyone else has to deal with the same thing right? And here we go with the newcomer bit..... your sense of entitlement is showing sir.
    How is removing the barriers so everyone is on equal footing entitlement? It becomes more skill-based than "oh, I lost cause I didn't have X unlocked..." Yes, everyone has to deal with it but PvP has been around enough it is somewhat fragmented between those who have done it for a while and those just getting into it.
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    Mihael Blue
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Frowny View Post
    How is removing the barriers so everyone is on equal footing entitlement? It becomes more skill-based than "oh, I lost cause I didn't have X unlocked..." Yes, everyone has to deal with it but PvP has been around enough it is somewhat fragmented between those who have done it for a while and those just getting into it.
    As much as I agree the 'top' PVPers have their elitist circle with not much of a population to be elitist with, how does having achievements and gear barriers different to PVE?

    If I want to raid, do I ask for i250 gear? No I have to earn it as well as learn my PVE rotations, not have it handed to me on 'an equal footing' platter.
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    You realize everyone has to deal with the same thing right? And here we go with the newcomer bit..... your sense of entitlement is showing sir.
    It isn't entitlement to point out a flaw. Virtually every competitive FPS game has some form of rank depreciation specifically to prevent people from sitting. You keep clamouring on about skill, except it isn't necessarily skill determining who ranks within the top 100. People can and have spammed Feast the first week, then sit on their rank while others who didn't have the same amount of time to dedicate to it, have to catch up-- all the while losing their rank by virtue of playing more matches. Keep in mind, none of us can control the groups we'll get. Someone could simply get a string of bad groups and lose rank, yet people who are sitting on their rank have nothing to worry about. What you're advocating for is essentially "I got here first!" That's neither competitive nor skill oriented. It's the equivalent of cheering because you were first in line.
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