RIP Minion Collectors :(

[Frowny]

Ya, it should be win or lose, so you can just throw 200 games and then have your mount right?

Your elitism is truly amazing. Who is to say they'll just throw a game... 200 freaking times at that?
Edit: Heck, this could very well encourage more to join in PvP which is always good. Or would you prefer it be kept to a tight inner circle?

As much as I agree the 'top' PVPers have their elitist circle with not much of a population to be elitist with, how does having achievements and gear barriers different to PVE?

If I want to raid, do I ask for i250 gear? No I have to earn it as well as learn my PVE rotations, not have it handed to me on 'an equal footing' platter.

Subtle difference is PvE does get nerfed to lower the barrier. While else would Midas Savage get echo buffs?

[Synestra]

Who is to say they'll just throw a game... 200 freaking times at that?

There is actually plenty of peoples who would do this simply because its faster just to throw a match than actually try and win it(less than 1min VS 8min). We already got glimpse of this when Feast was fastest way to grind tomes for relics.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

I stopped PvPing completely when they added the mini airship mount, because I really wanted it but will never be able to get 200 wins. If it was just play 200 matches win or lose I probably would have tried. But PvP is kind of inherently "unfair" and I have much less control over my ability to win than I do in PvE content. I never got a horse or a ball either and at this point I'd just rather not add to the number of active PvP players and have SE think I'm enjoying this.

You can get the mount even through the unranked 8v8 matches. I did. After all the ranked ones I did, I just played 8v8s with other PvPers, even some of the top ones for fun. Some days later when I randomly went to the achievement guy, I discovered I'd earned and didn't even know.

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

[Pomelo]

I occasionally pvp when I feel like it and I in no why whatsoever, believe that the devs should have bowed down to this, its ridiculous. It's so silly, keep exclusive incentives for people to do stuff, and actually you know try? and be proud of things they accomplished in game.

Time to write a thread RIP LEGACY TATOO, cos I really want that and now I know if I cry enough I'll get it.

[Auteur]

Irony is people have no problems with the mass-complaint and SE concession in response here to PvP but then there is suddenly an uproar over nerfs to PvE content. If SE is going to be consistent there should be no complaints about removing "exclusive" rewards from a panoply of PvE content and "making savage gear obsolete," after all the goal is higher clear rates for all and so that everyone has a good chance of getting the best gear?

Surely Savage should be removed from the game entirely, right? Only a minority of the game pop plays that content and it's unfair for that minority to get tangible rewards (gear) from that content on top of minions?

[Alleo]

Thank you SE.

I see this as good for both sides. The top PVPer might not have so many "bad" players in their team because people dont need to take part in the season anymore to get it and people that want to collect all ingame minions are still able to get it later. I mean we dont even know what we have to do to get the achievement. Maybe its 500 wins in the Feast or something like that but at least we can try to get to it on our own time.

Such long time achievements are imo way better as an incentive than limited rewards. For someone that constantly plays PVP 500 wins for example would not be enough but for someone that is only at the beginning this means some long time investment thus having people play it longer. If you have a minion as such a limited reward in the season you will first loose all those that know that they will never get it thus them staying away from PVP or the ones that are trying to get it but wont get it thanks to the small number of winners. Maybe they will say that this was way to annoying and thus wont ever get back to PVP again.

With an achievement this would at least give everyone the same change to get it and might motivate some people to try out the feast.

[Savagelf]

i really want fenrir cub

[Altera]

I personally have never seen the appeal of PVP in a MMORPG, but that is just me. I see PVP as a place where it brings out the worst in peoples behaviour and such.
Like when I actually were pretty good in PVP in WOW, until I started getting people I killed make Alt characters on my server to send me death threats and harassed me to no end.
It kinda turned me off of PVP in MMOs at least for good. If I want PVP action, I play COD, Battlefield, Overwatch, as those games are not something I sink so many hours of my life into compared to XIV/MMOs.

[Aviars]

I personally have never seen the appeal of PVP in a MMORPG, but that is just me. I see PVP as a place where it brings out the worst in peoples behaviour and such.
Like when I actually were pretty good in PVP in WOW, until I started getting people I killed make Alt characters on my server to send me death threats and harassed me to no end.
It kinda turned me off of PVP in MMOs at least for good. If I want PVP action, I play COD, Battlefield, Overwatch, as those games are not something I sink so many hours of my life into compared to XIV/MMOs.

And? Oh someone doesn't like how something they don't want to do is getting attention from the devs. Noted.

[KasumiCascade]

And? Oh someone doesn't like how something they don't want to do is getting attention from the devs. Noted.

That's... Not even close to relevant to what the quoted post was trying to say lol. Although you did sort of prove their concerns valid. You also might want to take a few deep breaths, seeing as your posts have been nothing but increasingly antagonistic for no legitimate reason. Please, if you wish to have your concerns noted, it would be in your best interest (and the community's) to provide a suggestion or expand your opinion beyond "If someone likes this change I need to discredit everything they say, no matter how irrelevant!"