Lore Book Revelations

[Ametrine]

I feel like he's going to skip the Stormblood action and act as the (unofficial) Scion leader for a bit, hanging around in the Rising Stones in Minfilia's place, and Alisae will be the one traveling with us.

I certainly hope so. I really don't want to see another precious ally die or "go away" after all we've been through. (I'm tryimg to mentally prepare for it, since Yoshi-P warned shit is getting dark @.@)

Alisaie's even sassier self acting as our new sidekick would be a treat, though.

[Balipu]

I certainly hope so. I really don't want to see another precious ally die or "go away" after all we've been through. (I'm tryimg to mentally prepare for it, since Yoshi-P warned shit is getting dark @.@)

Alisaie's even sassier self acting as our new sidekick would be a treat, though.

I know saying this will bite me in the ass but I am totally fine with allies dying as long as they really are dying and not just having a fake death like Nanamo, Y'shtola, Thancred, Yda, Papalymo and Estinien.

[Hinoto-no-Ryuji]

I know saying this will bite me in the ass but I am totally fine with allies dying as long as they really are dying and not just having a fake death like Nanamo, Y'shtola, Thancred, Yda, Papalymo and Estinien.

Really though, only one of those character had a fake death. Everybody but Nanamo was left highly ambiguous.

[Fenral]

I know saying this will bite me in the ass but I am totally fine with allies dying as long as they really are dying and not just having a fake death like Nanamo, Y'shtola, Thancred, Yda, Papalymo and Estinien.

You do realize what a terrible thing that would be to say about living human beings, right? They may be video game characters, but we're supposed to care about our allies, dammit.

As far as I'm concerned a "fake" death just means that things weren't as bad as they seemed, which happens a lot in reality, too. Something like the Apollo 13 accident could never happen in fiction, because it would be too good an opportunity for someone to make the ultimate sacrifice for the cause.

[Zojha]

They may be video game characters, but we're supposed to care about our allies, dammit.

The game isn't doing a very good job at making us - or at least some of us - care I'm afraid. That's in no small part due to them being associated with hollow dialogue, stealing our show in combat prowess against the presentation of the rest of the game and menial fetch quests that do nothing but bar our progress to things we would rather do. As player, I was "glad" when Ul'dah happened and merely cynically remarked:"That's too good to be true, they'll come back somehow. Can I get to Ishgard now?"

There's a very strong disconnect between my character and my out of character self as far as feelings are concerned. I'm not happy when I see Alphinaud, I groan because my first association is: Mandatory fetch quest. And the natural reaction is:"Please just go away and never come back.", rather than the:"I'm so happy to see you!" My character seems to do.

[alimdia]

I dare say Minfilia was the most hated NPC in ARR, just because anything involving Minfilia also involved fetch quests and having to travel 3x more than necessary for menial tasks

[Tracewood]

I dare say Minfilia was the most hated NPC in ARR, just because anything involving Minfilia also involved fetch quests and having to travel 3x more than necessary for menial tasks

To be fair, (SPOILER)

they DID make her a sacrifice so that could count as a "death" that probably won't get reversed in any way.

(SPOILER)

[Balipu]

You do realize what a terrible thing that would be to say about living human beings, right? They may be video game characters, but we're supposed to care about our allies, dammit.

Terrible or not, the fake death cliffhanger is the cheapest plot device ever. I mean I was sure some would survive Ul'dah. As the game mascot Y'shtola pretty much has immunity, but as of 3.4 even Minfilia is alive. Nanamo's death was so important that it made it into the intro cinematic, yet it was outdone halfway into the HW main scenario. I do care about some of my allies. I just think the ending of 2.55 was freakin terrible. Especially now that it turns out it didn't ammount to anything at all.

To be fair, they DID make her a sacrifice so that could count as a "death" that probably won't get reversed in any way.

Errr how far are you into the Main Scenario?

[Fenral]

To be fair, they DID make her a sacrifice so that could count as a "death" that probably won't get reversed in any way.

Talk to F'lhaminn. Minfilia will be back for the finale, at the very least. She's just been put on a bus for now because of her overwhelming unpopularity.

I just think the ending of 2.55 was freakin terrible. Especially now that it turns out it didn't ammount to anything at all.

And people give me s[kupo]t for still being down on the ending to the Crystal Tower story. However you feel about the means used to get there, at least it can be agreed that "The Parting Glass" canonically happened and has had an ongoing effect. And not all the character development was terrible, either.