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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    That's not true. Actually technically the 13th wasn't destroyed as much as turned into a void of darkness.

    However 7 worlds have been destroyed. that's what happens whenever there is a calamity.
    I think Balipu worded it awkwardly, but his point was correct. Unukulhai's story told of how his world was consumed by darkness and lost due to great warriors using primal-infused auracite that slowly corrupted them. Since we know all the other lost reflection worlds were Rejoined via calamity it was logical deduction that Unukulhai's world had to have been the 13th as it was the only one to have been lost due to a Flood of Darkness as he described.

    Essentially Unukulhai came from a world that was outright lost instead of Rejoined and 3.4 revealed that only one world had thus far been lost in such a way: the 13th. Thus the 13th had to be Unukulhai's world.

    There was speculation immediately following 3.4 that all the ruling tier voidsent were the 13th's WoLs that Unukulhai spoke of. The lorebook has at least confirmed one such to be true. I wonder if the Cloud of Darkness and Scathach may be corrupted warriors as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    There was speculation immediately following 3.4 that all the ruling tier voidsent were the 13th's WoLs that Unukulhai spoke of. The lorebook has at least confirmed one such to be true. I wonder if the Cloud of Darkness and Scathach may be corrupted warriors as well.
    Well I guess we will find out in 3.5. with the new 2.4-man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    There was speculation immediately following 3.4 that all the ruling tier voidsent were the 13th's WoLs that Unukulhai spoke of. The lorebook has at least confirmed one such to be true. I wonder if the Cloud of Darkness and Scathach may be corrupted warriors as well.
    Uh, which one was confirmed to be a corrupted WoL again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Pretty sure I saw them all in the book - even if it was just a little bit of information on each. I haven't read through it all yet though.
    Yeah I know. But I don't have the book. And I couldn't find scans about any of them. Judging from the Oboro and Karasu entries Yugiri Mistwalker is not Yugiri's actual full name. For Rowena the question is her aim with all the tomestones, for the Mandervilles....mostly more info on the Gold Saucer and maybe any hints at more family members. Is Hildibrand an only child? Is there a grandmother or someone even Julyen is affrain of?
    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    I think Balipu worded it awkwardly
    Please don't say that. I have a degree in linguistics. Sure it is still present so it isn't literally destroyed, but it is irreversably lost to the darkness. For all intents and purposes it is gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    Yeah I know. But I don't have the book. And I couldn't find scans about any of them. Judging from the Oboro and Karasu entries Yugiri Mistwalker is not Yugiri's actual full name. For Rowena the question is her aim with all the tomestones, for the Mandervilles....mostly more info on the Gold Saucer and maybe any hints at more family members. Is Hildibrand an only child? Is there a grandmother or someone even Julyen is affrain of?
    If Yugiri has a family/clan name the Lore Book doesn't give it.

    Rowena genuinely doesn't seem to be doing anything with the tomestones but selling them, the more interesting question is who's she selling them to. The section on Allagan Chimera talks about how scholars thought creatures like Hydra were natural until they started deciphering the tomestones so I suspect that our ultimate buyers may be Sharlayan.

    Julyan is afraid of aging. Despite being a mother to a man of twenty-three summers she claims to still be a very young woman and it is extremely dangerous to suggest that she owes her fresh looks to the best alchemical creams and tonics the Manderville fortune can buy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJerome View Post
    If Yugiri has a family/clan name the Lore Book doesn't give it.

    Rowena genuinely doesn't seem to be doing anything with the tomestones but selling them, the more interesting question is who's she selling them to. The section on Allagan Chimera talks about how scholars thought creatures like Hydra were natural until they started deciphering the tomestones so I suspect that our ultimate buyers may be Sharlayan.

    Julyan is afraid of aging. Despite being a mother to a man of twenty-three summers she claims to still be a very young woman and it is extremely dangerous to suggest that she owes her fresh looks to the best alchemical creams and tonics the Manderville fortune can buy.
    Wow. Thanks, you are my hero. Any indication of what Yugiri was the Lady of? She leads the refugees, sure but did she lead Doma as well?

    Twenty-three summers? Godbert? Seven hells! How often do they have summers there? I'm twenty five years old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    Wow. Thanks, you are my hero. Any indication of what Yugiri was the Lady of? She leads the refugees, sure but did she lead Doma as well?

    Twenty-three summers? Godbert? Seven hells! How often do they have summers there? I'm twenty five years old.
    Godbert is 56 or 58 I believe. Its Hildy that's 23...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    Wow. Thanks, you are my hero. Any indication of what Yugiri was the Lady of? She leads the refugees, sure but did she lead Doma as well?
    Quote Originally Posted by Encyclopedia Eorzea
    "Having thus mastered ninjutsu and being given the epithet "Mistwalker", she pledged herself to the remnants of the Doman general's clan. Thereafter, she waged a war against the Garlean Army. Alas, the rebellion ended in defeat, and the Domans lost everything. Obeying her lord's orders, Yugiri led a number of her countrymen in flight."
    . . . I really look forward to seeing what the Japanese phrasing of that text is because I would bet cold hard gil that they're going to call her lord "Shogun" instead of the vaguer "Doman general".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    Uh, which one was confirmed to be a corrupted WoL again?
    Chuchulain, he is described as one of the champions of the 13th that was corrupted by auracite. This description matches exactly with Unukulhai's story. Neither explicitly use the term 'Warrior of Light' but the 'champions' or 'great warriors' of the various worlds are likely to be their equivalent of us. The fact that they were capable of slaughtering primals en masse, as per Unukulhai's story, means they almost certainly posessed the Echo at the very least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    Please don't say that. I have a degree in linguistics. Sure it is still present so it isn't literally destroyed, but it is irreversably lost to the darkness. For all intents and purposes it is gone.
    I meant no offense in saying that. Your statement was ambiguous though as it is debatable whether Rejoined worlds could also be considered 'destroyed' or not. That was the point that caused confusion. I merely expanded on your argument. I understood what you meant, but others did not.
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    I know. And this isn't how I act when I am actually hurt. It really was oddly worded. But you know, professional pride and all that. I think rejoined worlds are definitely destroyed. But I don't know if any world rejoined at all. I mean Nabriales wanted to make the next rejoining so it stands for reason that there was a previous one, but the way I understand is: rejoining is just another word for calamity. I mean there are fourteen worlds in total and we had like, how many calamities here on Hydaelin? six? The total number of calamities overall should approach a hundred, yet Zodiark is still sleeping.
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