Why do people beg for cash shop stuff?

[Galaktica]

Recently all the glamour added to the game have been done with the CS, the way SE is using the CS recently is just an aberration.

This is why I can't take you people seriously. It's blatant bs hyperbole trying to get your point across.

Really? All the glamour? So the Moonfire, Survival, New World, and Cashmere sets that they added don't count? What about the 4-5 (I would've said 7ish, but let's be real, some are palette swaps) new Alex and tome sets they add each time they update those? Those can't be used for glamour either, right?

The only glamour sets added to the CS "recently" have been the Korean, Chinese, Cid, Y'shtola, and Ironworks sets.

If you wanna go either further back, since the start of Heavensward, they added the Expeditioner Tabard, Dhamelskin cost, Company tabard, High Bustle, Justaucorps, Wind SIlk Coatee, Falconer Shirt, and Thavanarian sets in-game (some of those sets are full 5 piece outfits by the way). They also turned the Astral Silk robe and Uraeus Coat into glamour pieces available for everyone. In that same time frame, they added Minfilla and the old-school Scion sets to the CS and most of the Scion gear is already available in game. The CS shop versions allow you to use them on any class, but you can't dye them.

edit: Oh yeah, and let's not forget all the extra standalone headpieces (like the flowers and whatnot) and all the glamour added during seasonal events during that time.

Now again I say, in what universe did SE add all or even "most" new glamour to the cash shop? The answer is they didn't and I'm sick of this argument.

[rjspencer4]

So they can get items without having to work towards them.

[Watachy]

Like I have said before, people really should not let these things ruin their gameplay so much. It's just silly. :/

It's absolutely not ruining my gameplay, the thing is that normal people can't access to the same content even if they pay the same bill as CS users. It's not a stupid P2W/P2P game.
CS was a good thing before the eastern outfits add it was proposing: items from previous events, outfit of the MSQ NPC (the only ecusives items back then), recolored mount ok that was good.
But now you have EXCLUSIVE items added to the CS: exclusive mounts, outfits, pets you can't deny that SE policy evolved in a bad way which set the players to not be equals anymore.

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Yeah and im tired of people saying "its optional duuuude", no it's not, it's part of a game, everyone should have access to those items.
This argument is stupid and invalid since it can acutally affect my experience in the game.

So they can get items without having to work towards them.

"It's optional duuuude i don't have to moove my ass and play the game, i just need to buy it with real money and expose it in Idylshire"

[Galaktica]

Yeah and im tired of people saying "its optional duuuude", no it's not, it's part of a game, everyone should have access to those items.
This argument is stupid and invalid since it can acutally affect my experience in the game.

Feel free to use a direct quote of when I said that because I'm 99.9% sure I didn't. My whole point was simply that you people keep claiming all the glamour gear is being added to the cash shop when it quite clearly isn't.

[AnaviAnael]

You know what, I'm so sick of people insulting people for spending their own sticking money. You all must be BROKE and live in trash cans if anyone spending ANY money makes you cry so hard like this to insult someone. And if you're not broke I bet it sucks having someone call you broke isn't it? If it does STOP calling people LAZY cause they have the money to buy a stupid dress. You see what you're doing? You can't get away calling someone lazy and get pissed someone else calls you BROKE. Good GOD.

Being broke and being lazy are hardly comparable. People can be broke for a multitude of reasons beyond their control. Laziness is entirely on the person.

[Watachy]

Feel free to use a direct quote of when I said that because I'm 99.9% sure I didn't. My whole point was simply that you people keep claiming all the glamour gear is being added to the cash shop when it quite clearly isn't.

I just wanted to use the fact that you're sick of an argument to said that me too. Sorry if the quote isn't great, gonna change that if you want.

All the itmes are not added in the CS that's for sure, but you can't deny that the frequency of the CS add as increased and SE just wants money actually.
Instead of proposing an interesting way to obtain items in the game they just for people to spy the regions exclusive items and overprice those items in the CS to make a large profit, which is a shame in a sub based MMO.

[HyoMinPark]

It's absolutely not ruining my gameplay, the thing is that's not normal people can't access to the same content when they pay the same bill. It's not a stupid P2W/P2P game.
CS was a good thing before the eastern outfits add it was proposing: items from previous events, outfit of the MSQ NPC (the only ecusives items back then), recolored mount ok that was good.
But now you have EXCLUSIVE items added to the CS: exclusive mounts, outfits, pets you can't deny that SE policy evolved in a bad way which set the players to not be equals anymore.

I was using a general statement, not pointing out you exclusively. But your posts before about how you can't afford the items but want to enjoy them do kind of make it sound like your gameplay is being negatively affected by a cash shop. Apologies. Well I see that you have posted that it can and apparently does affect your gaming experience in some shape or form.

Again. The Chinese and Korean outfits were originally cash shop items in their respective countries before they were ever brought over here. They weren't even made for the NA/EU/JP market, exclusively for the Chinese/Korean markets. And those players had to pay for them with real money as well. It would be unfair to demand we receive items that we were never supposed to even get for free when their intended market had to pay for them. Plus, it would have been a bad decision on SE's end, and I don't mean with regards to money. It's not wise to anger certain customers by making them pay for something, and then handing it out for free to others, especially since FFXIV is not the type of MMO that Chinese and Korean players typically go for (from my understanding).

None of the minions available in the cash shop were ever NOT available in-game in some shape or form. Please point out a minion in the cash shop that was never made available in-game first.

Exclusivity exists in-game as well. Savage mounts. PvP mounts and minions. EX Primal mounts.
All of that content is available to paying subscribers just like the cash shop. It's not like only certain people have access to the cash shop.

And with regards to the "not allowing players to be equal anymore"...well. I don't think that someone with the Fat Moogle Mount is better than me, and I don't think that I'm better than the guy over there that doesn't have the Chinese outfit. Can't speak for everyone else, but I hardly think having more vanity items than someone else makes them better or "not equal" to the rest of us.

[SpookyGhost]

Again. The Chinese and Korean outfits were originally cash shop items in their respective countries before they were ever brought over here. They weren't even made for the NA/EU/JP market, exclusively for the Chinese/Korean markets. And those players had to pay for them with real money as well. It would be unfair to demand we receive items that we were never supposed to even get for free when their intended market had to pay for them. Plus, it would have been a bad decision on SE's end, and I don't mean with regards to money.

Have you considered that maybe the Chinese and Korean outfits shouldn't have been cash shop items in their respective countries either? You're right that since it was a cash shop item there then it would be unfair to give it away free here - but it didn't need to be a cash shop item in the first place.

[Kaurie]

Have you considered that maybe the Chinese and Korean outfits shouldn't have been cash shop items in their respective countries either? You're right that since it was a cash shop item there then it would be unfair to give it away free here - but it didn't need to be a cash shop item in the first place.

I agree with this.

Again. The Chinese and Korean outfits were originally cash shop items in their respective countries before they were ever brought over here. They weren't even made for the NA/EU/JP market, exclusively for the Chinese/Korean markets. And those players had to pay for them with real money as well. It would be unfair to demand we receive items that we were never supposed to even get for free when their intended market had to pay for them.

I think it is also important to consider that the subscription model is not the same in China as it is in JP/NA/EU. The design there is that you pay per hour spent, rather than a monthly cost regardless of time spent.

[AnaviAnael]

I really don't care that people buy items from the cash shop, but it does get tiresome when people keep asking for items to be put in the cash shop. I'd rather see them be obtainable in game.