Season 3 Matchmaking Failure

[Korihu]

Literally cannot call anyone the best anything in the game until all players in the game are on the same DC. I get what you're doing, trying to talk up Balmung and Aether, but it's just an invalid statement on every level. I mean Ava is a perfect example. He had a 53% WR S1/S2 on Primal, moves to Aether and magically has a 78% win rate at rank 2? How can you explain that? I guess he miraculously got better in the 1 day between S2/S3.

I don't know Ava personally, but I know that they are a really good WHM. I'm a healer and whenever I am up against them, they always time their CCs on me perfectly to prevent me from healing any form of bursts. Maybe I'm just bad, but I don't think it's right to accuse Ava of whatever you are accusing them of.

stefandoeshaveegoissuestho

[TiramisuMacaron]

I don't know Ava personally, but I know that they are a really good WHM. I'm a healer and whenever I am up against them, they always time their CCs on me perfectly to prevent me from healing any form of bursts. Maybe I'm just bad, but I don't think it's right to accuse Ava of whatever you are accusing them of.

stefandoeshaveegoissuestho

I think you misunderstood him. No one is accusing Ava of any foul play here.

[Koltik]

I don't know Ava personally, but I know that they are a really good WHM. I'm a healer and whenever I am up against them, they always time their CCs on me perfectly to prevent me from healing any form of bursts. Maybe I'm just bad, but I don't think it's right to accuse Ava of whatever you are accusing them of.

stefandoeshaveegoissuestho

Sorry this thread got completely off topic but no i am not accusing Ava of hacking at all. The point was that just because players on Aether have higher win rates than other DC's, it doesn't really mean anything since clearly they're inflated. Not sure why they're inflated, but they are.

[Korihu]

Sorry this thread got completely off topic but no i am not accusing Ava of hacking at all. The point was that just because players on Aether have higher win rates than other DC's, it doesn't really mean anything since clearly they're inflated. Not sure why they're inflated, but they are.

Ah, sorry. I misinterpreted it as accusing them of something.

I dunno, most healers on the data center have like a ~50% win rate. How do win rates get inflated anyway? It's just a case of winning more than you lose so..

[Koltik]

I dunno, most healers on the data center have like a ~50% win rate. How do win rates get inflated anyway? It's just a case of winning more than you lose so..

That's the question of the day.

[Zojha]

That's the question of the day.

Well, the only way for winrates to become inflated is to be matched against the exact same people over and over. Which can happen, frequently, during off hours and it makes the rating less comparable to someone who fought more different enemies/during prime time.

The best example of that would be party queue - if you "only" had a team of bad players and a team of moderate players playing for most of the day, the team of moderate players would have a highly inflated winrate from farming the worse team. And even though a top team that could easily beat the moderate players might enter late at night after clearing Savage, they don't find any enemies, let alone the moderate team to reduce their winrate.

If inflation happens, it's a side effect of low available matches. Conversely, rating deflation can also happen for the same reasons.

[Evilsyndicatemember]

Sorry this thread got completely off topic but no i am not accusing Ava of hacking at all. The point was that just because players on Aether have higher win rates than other DC's, it doesn't really mean anything since clearly they're inflated. Not sure why they're inflated, but they are.

It could be based off of the talent pool and size of the pool in general.

Aether most likely has a larger pvp community than primal does and the range of experience between top players, mid-core and new players is vast. So thus the inflation of the percentages based on the size of the pool would matter here.

Primal has a smaller, more focused community so we challenge a lot of the same people who are seasoned so it affects our rating that way, based off of talent pool.

I'm not saying that one DC is better than the other but this is how I view the percentile differences between the two NA DCs.