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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeKingStefan View Post
    housing just about all of the best players this game has seen.
    There is no best player the game has ever seen until everyone is playing on the same data center. Nice try though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koltik View Post
    There is no best player the game has ever seen until everyone is playing on the same data center. Nice try though!
    Notice how I never said "we are the best". I simply stated that we house "some of the best." I'm not sure why you interpreted that the way you did. That said, Balmung does have the largest and most active PVP community of any server of any data center. If you really want to contest that, I'd have to call you foolish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeKingStefan View Post
    Notice how I never said "we are the best". I simply stated that we house "some of the best." I'm not sure why you interpreted that the way you did.
    Did you read what you said?

    about all of the best players this game has seen.
    Literally cannot call anyone the best anything in the game until all players in the game are on the same DC. I get what you're doing, trying to talk up Balmung and Aether, but it's just an invalid statement on every level. I mean Ava is a perfect example. He had a 53% WR S1/S2 on Primal, moves to Aether and magically has a 78% win rate at rank 2? How can you explain that? I guess he miraculously got better in the 1 day between S2/S3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koltik View Post
    I mean Ava is a perfect example. He had a 53% WR S1/S2 on Primal, moves to Aether and magically has a 78% win rate at rank 2? How can you explain that? I guess he miraculously got better in the 1 day between S2/S3.
    He's just getting carried by bronze players, ok? Primal has no good melee dps, of course all of the healers are dumpster tier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koltik View Post
    Literally cannot call anyone the best anything in the game until all players in the game are on the same DC. I get what you're doing, trying to talk up Balmung and Aether, but it's just an invalid statement on every level. I mean Ava is a perfect example. He had a 53% WR S1/S2 on Primal, moves to Aether and magically has a 78% win rate at rank 2? How can you explain that? I guess he miraculously got better in the 1 day between S2/S3.
    I don't know Ava personally, but I know that they are a really good WHM. I'm a healer and whenever I am up against them, they always time their CCs on me perfectly to prevent me from healing any form of bursts. Maybe I'm just bad, but I don't think it's right to accuse Ava of whatever you are accusing them of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korihu View Post
    I don't know Ava personally, but I know that they are a really good WHM. I'm a healer and whenever I am up against them, they always time their CCs on me perfectly to prevent me from healing any form of bursts. Maybe I'm just bad, but I don't think it's right to accuse Ava of whatever you are accusing them of.

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    I think you misunderstood him. No one is accusing Ava of any foul play here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korihu View Post
    I don't know Ava personally, but I know that they are a really good WHM. I'm a healer and whenever I am up against them, they always time their CCs on me perfectly to prevent me from healing any form of bursts. Maybe I'm just bad, but I don't think it's right to accuse Ava of whatever you are accusing them of.

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    Sorry this thread got completely off topic but no i am not accusing Ava of hacking at all. The point was that just because players on Aether have higher win rates than other DC's, it doesn't really mean anything since clearly they're inflated. Not sure why they're inflated, but they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koltik View Post
    Sorry this thread got completely off topic but no i am not accusing Ava of hacking at all. The point was that just because players on Aether have higher win rates than other DC's, it doesn't really mean anything since clearly they're inflated. Not sure why they're inflated, but they are.
    Ah, sorry. I misinterpreted it as accusing them of something.

    I dunno, most healers on the data center have like a ~50% win rate. How do win rates get inflated anyway? It's just a case of winning more than you lose so..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korihu View Post
    I dunno, most healers on the data center have like a ~50% win rate. How do win rates get inflated anyway? It's just a case of winning more than you lose so..
    That's the question of the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koltik View Post
    Sorry this thread got completely off topic but no i am not accusing Ava of hacking at all. The point was that just because players on Aether have higher win rates than other DC's, it doesn't really mean anything since clearly they're inflated. Not sure why they're inflated, but they are.
    It could be based off of the talent pool and size of the pool in general.

    Aether most likely has a larger pvp community than primal does and the range of experience between top players, mid-core and new players is vast. So thus the inflation of the percentages based on the size of the pool would matter here.

    Primal has a smaller, more focused community so we challenge a lot of the same people who are seasoned so it affects our rating that way, based off of talent pool.

    I'm not saying that one DC is better than the other but this is how I view the percentile differences between the two NA DCs.
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