RIP Minion Collectors :(

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

I would really recommend you not to watch any PvP streams right now, lol.

Sorry, but you're not likely to get me to agree with the idea that PvP is by and large toxic, not when I regularly speak to several other PvPers on a friendly basis, even after a losing match, or when I myself actively make strides to be a positive example. I did say before that there are bad apples, and that those bad apples aren't exclusive to PvP. I also said passions tend to run high in competition (and that's just me repeating Yoshi P himself); that's no justification for bad behavior or someone's nasty attitude, but I am remaining firm in stating that PvP and the people who enjoy it are, by a majority, not toxic. I'm refuting the still-as-of-yet unsupported blanket statement, especially because it does not apply to me and many others I enjoy playing with/against.

[Moonlite]

Sorry, but you're not likely to get me to agree with the idea that PvP is by and large toxic

Aether in Feast can be pure hell. Generally in frontlines people know who the competitive (lol toxic) players are. There are pages upon pages of hate for other players and how they are matched with gods and they should stop queing or SE should remove them from the sacred que of others. Also someone who pvps is more accepting or maybe thicker skinned towards what is acceptable behavior. A pretty big name got banned in season 1 and in a few pvp linkshells were like that was ok attitude to have. I wouldn't want someone treating someone i cared about in the way they were treating others.

Now people in this thread want to add casual players and more elite prizes. How do you see that turning out?

On the actual prize. The way gear is modeled it seems to hard to make sets stand out the way they do in other games. This leaves the beast type of ego rewards as mounts or minions. They can almost be anything and are visible. Get asked all the time about cheerleader. If they wanted this for more people to actually participate it would be some obscene amount of matches per season.

[kensatsu]

The pvp is not more toxic than pve, if you get in pug groups for anything if it don't go well, some guys is toxic too bo matter if it's faceroll or hard content
It happen when people is raging about loose, not get reward.
Then some players is pro at blaming others for bad or good reasons everywhere.
Also care about too much and give credits to the toxic players is against the competitive spirit you have to get in pvp, if you get insulted because you mess, only care about your mess, if you get insulted for nothing by even bad player than you, you don't even have to care. Your only concern is to win and progress and learn from the loose.
The Pve is the same, if you are doing savage with pugs and get insulted, and you decide to stay away because players is toxic, they win you loose...
Also in competitive game there is always guys playing well or eventualy pretty strong take the Big head, it's as simple to understand and i don't care, it would be a waste of time to care about this.

[Lambdafish]

Perhaps people don't have the same views on the A12 mount because it will be available to anyone with a pulse in a year. Nevermind how when someone else gets the mount it doesn't remove you from the pool of people who can get it. Just a couple thoughts.

Taken from the same post you replied to:

Besides, the chances are that they will figure out a way to put them back into circulation in stormblood, as they have done with many other pieces of content (hell, they screw over crafters in every patch these days)

I was talking about as current content, I'm counting on the mounts/minions coming back around at some point (like the stuff from aquapolis and accursed hoard)

[MihaelB]

Not Aether but this is hilarious from the PVP forum that is apparently not toxic.

In the end..this is all Yoshi's fault for trying to make a politically correct PvP-Paradise of decency for all. Solution? Grow a pair. Cussing out nooblets (and vets, woo~) goes as much hand in hand with mmo pvp as does a box of Kleenx and a copy of- nvm. Its a time honored tradition..a rite of passage. Personally myself, I LIKE getting critized, insulted, and told do go fornicate with a cactus. Cuz sooner or later, yer gonna be on the other team...and thats when it reeeeally gets fun. THATS good PvP!

If you want kindness and friendship..start a warm fc. Go stand in town and give 1 million gil to every noobie running by...you'll get LOTS of kind words then. Let PvP be the wasteland of rudeness that its always been. All things considered, even at its worst in 14 its still mild. (Ballista days long gone by..where there was shout..and sending personalized 'aaah haa..yer mom died ina car accident' tells.)

Then again..whys this even a topic? If youre that bothered by comments, just switch chat modes to a silent screen. No, doesnt improve team communication but w/e..

[TaranTatsuuchi]

what is this tread XD,
If you wish Pve to have something like this, ask and you will have it.
The feast is what some players have asked.
If there demand on something SE will certainly publish, its how it work.

Uh, I think the topic is they don't want -any- rewards to be this exclusive....

Timed, skill required, and limited number of items, 10 for each datacenter...

[Nakanishi]

Love when PvP get's designated as toxic because of the few bad apples, but then people completely forget how toxic PvE can be. New players get shit on in every avenue in this game. First timers to farm content that join farm parties get shit on, kicked out, and then shit on for thinking it was ok to join farm content. Not good enough to beat raid content? Get shit on, then replaced, then get shit on for being so bad and having said players tell their friends about how awful you are diminishing chances of finding another raid geoup. Tons of post of toxicity in PvE on reddit nearly every week, but somehow PvE is not a toxic environment. If anything, PvE is more toxic than PvP's alleged toxicity.

[Sphinx12]

I just love these butthurt casuals topics.... go on try or go mine salty tears of your fellow QQ topic members to Coerthas.... maybe you ll actually learn your class while doing so..... or you ll just serve as a food to Dragoons, Barrage Empyreals, Fell cleaves, Deathflares and Rapid-Fire combos. ))) See you all in the fields of Feast

[NatSilverguard]

Uh, I think the topic is they don't want -any- rewards to be this exclusive....

Timed, skill required, and limited number of items, 10 for each datacenter...

in-game stuff connected to real stuff are exclusive to me because of shipping issues, i can't have them even if i have the money.

so, should i make threads like this as well?! lol

[Vaeria]

Not Aether but this is hilarious from the PVP forum that is apparently not toxic.

Lololol...you thought THAT was being toxic? No..that was simply being realistic to pvp in general in ANY mmo. Me being toxic would amount to something like- "I can't WAIT to see the 1st idiot to cancel their ffxiv sub then go commit suicide because they can't complete a minion collection in view of missing 5 little pixels on a screen and are too lazy to get off their backside and do some actual pvp." THAT..would be being toxic.

Feast season has just started. Lots of time to learn the ropes and rank if your minion collection means that much to you. Same thing with the mounts. Insteada wasting time on the forums bitching..go que some FL..get some experience. Pvp is difficult yes, but for the work pvpers invested..this time theyre actually getting some eyecatching rewards for the invested blood. "Blah blah blah..I dun wanna do ickie pvp but I wan mah moun'n'minions!t /cry" . . .deal with it, /shrug.