Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
Because unfortunately while stance dancing remains an option, then it's still going to be expected. I've been harangued in heavy hitting dungeons or with groups who would NOT stay out of the stupid for not swapping over to CS to "do my part" so we could finish in their expected 15 minutes. Of course I'm not going to in that situation. I have to babysit their health too much. So it's kind of a "this is why we can't have nice things" because there are so many ignorant non-healers who don't understand our reasons for not using it that would require the option to just got away.
That's not an issue with Cleric Stance; that's a more basic issue with players not understanding other roles or the game in general. Sometimes it occurs on the part of the healer who doesn't know how to use their tools correctly to create and/or take advantage of opportunities to use their DPS skills, and sometimes it's like you describe, where the party doesn't realize that their failure to play well is relegating the healer to full-on babysitting duty.

Eliminating Cleric Stance and essentially forcing healers to stand around wasting time in an average or better run does not sound like any kind of solution. If anything, general sentiment towards healers would likely become more toxic as the role became universally regarded as the lazy one out of the three. Overhealing to look busy doesn't fool anyone who knows how to heal, and DPS without Cleric Stance is cute, but so ineffective as to be virtually worthless.