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  1. #21
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    Lambdafish's Avatar
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ErikMynhier View Post
    I love it. People want it nerfed so they can get their black pegasus and stuff....


    People want to be able to enter the floors easily, not finish the floors easily
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  2. #22
    Player ErikMynhier's Avatar
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    Erik Mynhier
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post


    People want to be able to enter the floors easily, not finish the floors easily
    It just takes getting some friends together and setting up times.
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    Xander Wolf
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    Sage Lv 90
    This decision of restricting 100+ to pre-mades/statics makes no sense at all, specially after they added Raid Finder for relevant EX primals and savage, such inconsistency in design. Why do you care if people want to solo/duo/trio it or PUG it? You will still be able to go with your static if you want. Everyone knows that going in with a static or w/e is easier, EVERYONE, it's not a secret. But there is a lot of people with SKILL that don't want to be part of a fucking static and I'd be willing to wipe 92023x and go with a matched party or be able to recruit in PF and enter the 101th floor directly without that BS of having to go through 51~100.

    Reminder: even after they added Raid Finder you still can run Savage and EX with your static. If we had floors 100+ unlocked for anyone, you could still do it with your static, not affecting you whatsoever. "Blablabla people will complain" who cares? There are people complaining NOW about this ridiculous decision, complains about difficult existed even when RF was not an option.

    A 4-man side dungeon is more restrictive than the main raid, amazing logic.
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErikMynhier View Post
    It just takes getting some friends together and setting up times.
    It takes a fixed party doing the entirety of 51-100 to even access floors 101+, which is 3-4 hours set up time before you even get to the savage content that you are wanting to do. This isn't even the hard content, this is just arbitrary gating.

    Fixed parties are fine, it is hard content (which nobody has asked to nerf), preparation and synergy are important for difficult content, but the 3-4 hour gate every time you want to enter these floors is too much.
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  5. #25
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    Momomi Momi
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    Behemoth
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    It takes a fixed party doing the entirety of 51-100 to even access floors 101+, which is 3-4 hours set up time before you even get to the savage content that you are wanting to do. This isn't even the hard content, this is just arbitrary gating.

    Fixed parties are fine, it is hard content (which nobody has asked to nerf), preparation and synergy are important for difficult content, but the 3-4 hour gate every time you want to enter these floors is too much.
    I don't believe the fixed party requirement has anything to do with it being hard content. This is about not wanting a repeat of people spamming floor 1-10 for the best rewards. If they let you enter right into it, that's exactly what people would do.
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  6. #26
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    People want to be able to enter the floors easily, not finish the floors easily
    Party Finder.
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  7. #27
    Player ErikMynhier's Avatar
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    Erik Mynhier
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    It takes a fixed party doing the entirety of 51-100 to even access floors 101+, which is 3-4 hours set up time before you even get to the savage content that you are wanting to do. This isn't even the hard content, this is just arbitrary gating.

    Fixed parties are fine, it is hard content (which nobody has asked to nerf), preparation and synergy are important for difficult content, but the 3-4 hour gate every time you want to enter these floors is too much.
    Well sure if you just absolutely want to slam it all at once to beat some imaginary time limit.

    Its not like the Feast where prizes have a timetable. Run 10-20 floors a run. Set a few days to do it a week.

    If you are not in it for prizes, and don't think it challenging then don't stress. I swear you kids put all this preasure on yourselves to get it done asap. Do like Nestama said, make a pf, and just go at a sane pace. You all need to relax a bit, its not that seruous.
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  8. #28
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    Jade Nixx
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ErikMynhier View Post
    not like the Feast where prizes have a timetable. Run 10-20 floors a run. Set a few days to do it a week.
    The problem has absolutely nothing to do with "[wanting] to slam it all at once to beat some imaginary time limit".

    Whether you do it all at once or stretch it out over a month, the issue is that to do the challenging part that you are interested in (floors 101+), you have to waste several hours of time slogging through 50 non-challenging floors that you may have no interest in.


    The requirement to get through 51-100 every single time you want to enter 101+ serves absolutely no purpose other than to waste time, and should probably be removed before people decide that it's too much of a hassle to bother with - because once people lose interest, they're probably not coming back to it even if the restriction gets lifted long after the fact.
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  9. #29
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    Depravicus Mana
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    Shiva
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    Lancer Lv 19
    This decision is absolutely asinine. I mean what is the point of locking people out of even atempting and puging this content? We can do it for savage so why not here?
    Before you say its super hardcore keep in mind devs stated it can be soloed so no way in hell this is hardcore, a 4 man party wouldnt have many issues for sure.
    I am also completely dumbfounded by the no K.O requirement as well.

    Why do the developers hate the idea of players participating in content?
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  10. #30
    Player ErikMynhier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crater View Post
    The problem has absolutely nothing to do with "[wanting] to slam it all at once to beat some imaginary time limit".

    Whether you do it all at once or stretch it out over a month, the issue is that to do the challenging part that you are interested in (floors 101+), you have to waste several hours of time slogging through 50 non-challenging floors that you may have no interest in.


    The requirement to get through 51-100 every single time you want to enter 101+ serves absolutely no purpose other than to waste time, and should probably be removed before people decide that it's too much of a hassle to bother with - because once people lose interest, they're probably not coming back to it even if the restriction gets lifted long after the fact.
    The challenge of this content is to play like the social game it is and organize socially with people.

    #besocial
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