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    Kaurie Lorhart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood-Aki View Post
    T1 and T2 were the easiest of the path, and (except maybe t2 with playing hot potatato with rot.) Anyone could do those, but when it came to t4 and 5, (3 was an obvious joke) No way in hell would you do those with a random group due to how much coordination was needed.
    This isn't a debate about difficulty, this is a debate about capability. In all raids since the beginning of raids, you were never forced to enter the 2nd floor/turn with the same group as the 1st (or the 5th with the same group as the 4th) etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    This isn't a debate about difficulty, this is a debate about capability. In all raids since the beginning of raids, you were never forced to enter the 2nd floor/turn with the same group as the 1st (or the 5th with the same group as the 4th) etc.
    My point was you aren't GOING to, of course you aren't forced, But, No one is going to do content with a group that they know will not accomplish anything. Floor 100+ is for the "hardcore" type, so they know the same rules may apply, You will want to do them with people you trust.

    One is locked out by force, the other is locked out by morality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood-Aki View Post
    My point was you aren't GOING to, of course you aren't forced, But, No one is going to do content with a group that they know will not accomplish anything. Floor 100+ is for the "hardcore" type, so they know the same rules may apply, You will want to do them with people you trust.

    One is locked out by force, the other is locked out by morality.
    My point is that I'd like to be able to do floors 51-100 with whoever. 101-120 with X friends who are online, and then maybe 121-130 with Y friends who pop on. With my static, I know 7 talented other individuals that I could make 35 different party compositions with.
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    Jijifli Kokofli
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood-Aki View Post
    My point was you aren't GOING to, of course you aren't forced, But, No one is going to do content with a group that they know will not accomplish anything. Floor 100+ is for the "hardcore" type, so they know the same rules may apply, You will want to do them with people you trust.

    One is locked out by force, the other is locked out by morality.
    But our point is that you don't get the OPTION in Palace 101-200. At least allow the option for the brave.
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    Charlotte Elise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood-Aki View Post

    One is locked out by force, the other is locked out by morality.
    Floors 101-110 have been solo'd, I don't see any legitimate reason for locking players out of 100+ if they wish to pug it, as players can pug savage content. I might not go in solo, but I definitely want to do floor 100+ with a friend and 2 other pugs (he's also interested) but we don't have two others who play at the same time constantly, so now a large amount of content is locked for no good reason.

    If people want to slam their face against 'impossible' odds, why not let them? Enforce a proper composition if you go in with a matched party and have a restriction on requiring +60 or over for your weapons and armour, easy as that.
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