[REQUEST] Please let us do POTD Floors 100+ Solo or Matched Group

[Blood-Aki]

Isn't this.. exactly how raiding works...? You get 7 other people who will for the most part, stay the same people you'll do the fights with. not to mention like 100+ is optional. and you can't solo or probably don't want to do it with random people, unless you get lucky.

[Kaurie]

Isn't this.. exactly how raiding works...? You get 7 other people who will for the most part, stay the same people you'll do the fights with. not to mention like 100+ is optional. and you can't solo or probably don't want to do it with random people, unless you get lucky.

Raiding doesn't require that you complete with the same group, nor does it require a pre-made group at all.

You can get a matched group through Raid Finder. You can complete A9S with 7 people and A10S with a completely different set of people.

[FoxyAreku]

Raiding doesn't require that you complete with the same group, nor does it require a pre-made group at all.

You can get a matched group through Raid Finder. You can complete A9S with 7 people and A10S with a completely different set of people.

This was an addition made this tier, raiding has always worked with statics required before now, and even now there is a VERY low chance you will get any further than A9S with pug groups in raid finder due to the coordination involved.

Make a party finder for a POTD leaderboard group and play with them. It's not hard. If you really want to do this then you should be willing to do at least that.

Honestly a much better request would be not requiring you to restart from level 50 every time you wipe. So few people have time for that.

[Kaurie]

This was an addition made this tier, raiding has always worked with statics required before now, and even now there is a VERY low chance you will get any further than A9S with pug groups in raid finder due to the coordination involved.

Simply not true. You could PF raids dating back to T1, and then complete T2 with an entirely different party.

Honestly a much better request would be not requiring you to restart from level 50 every time you wipe. So few people have time for that.

Agreed, I think that there are a lot of very poor decisions made regarding the new POTD floors and their restrictions.

Make a party finder for a POTD leaderboard group and play with them. It's not hard. If you really want to do this then you should be willing to do at least that.

I don't really want to do it that badly, to be honest. I'd like to check it out, but the restrictions make it meh. It's really too bad, Square keeps developing content with a lot of promise, but then makes it restrictive or not fun somehow that completely ruins it. Despite them adding so much to the game, it feels like the game is getting smaller and smaller to me.

[Blood-Aki]

Simply not true. You could PF raids dating back to T1, and then complete T2 with an entirely different party.

T1 and T2 were the easiest of the path, and (except maybe t2 with playing hot potatato with rot.) Anyone could do those, but when it came to t4 and 5, (3 was an obvious joke) No way in hell would you do those with a random group due to how much coordination was needed.

[Kaurie]

T1 and T2 were the easiest of the path, and (except maybe t2 with playing hot potatato with rot.) Anyone could do those, but when it came to t4 and 5, (3 was an obvious joke) No way in hell would you do those with a random group due to how much coordination was needed.

This isn't a debate about difficulty, this is a debate about capability. In all raids since the beginning of raids, you were never forced to enter the 2nd floor/turn with the same group as the 1st (or the 5th with the same group as the 4th) etc.

[Blood-Aki]

This isn't a debate about difficulty, this is a debate about capability. In all raids since the beginning of raids, you were never forced to enter the 2nd floor/turn with the same group as the 1st (or the 5th with the same group as the 4th) etc.

My point was you aren't GOING to, of course you aren't forced, But, No one is going to do content with a group that they know will not accomplish anything. Floor 100+ is for the "hardcore" type, so they know the same rules may apply, You will want to do them with people you trust.

One is locked out by force, the other is locked out by morality.

[FoxyAreku]

Simply not true. You could PF raids dating back to T1, and then complete T2 with an entirely different party.

Agreed, I think that there are a lot of very poor decisions made regarding the new POTD floors and their restrictions.


I don't really want to do it that badly, to be honest. I'd like to check it out, but the restrictions make it meh. It's really too bad, Square keeps developing content with a lot of promise, but then makes it restrictive or not fun somehow that completely ruins it. Despite them adding so much to the game, it feels like the game is getting smaller and smaller to me.

TBH the fact that it's not possible to save pomanders between floor sets in a matched party makes it unviable to do them that way to begin with. I'd prefer this restriction to stay, because people who do it outside of a fixed party would be gimped pretty badly and then we'd get even more complaints about how it is 'impossible'.

I understand why they did this, but I feel that the best option would be for players to be able to convert their matched party saves into a fixed party save once they reach floor 100 (or just allow players who beat floor 100 to start from floor 101 with a fixed party like how you can start from 51 if you beat floor 50).

The reason you have to start at floor 51 is because floors 51 to 100 are counted for the leaderboard.

Honestly don't like that myself, wish the leaderboard was only 101+, but alas.

[Magic-Mal]

Isn't this.. exactly how raiding works...? You get 7 other people who will for the most part, stay the same people you'll do the fights with. not to mention like 100+ is optional. and you can't solo or probably don't want to do it with random people, unless you get lucky.

PotD isn't raiding though. It's supposed to be hard, but it isn't a raid. There are people all over who want to do PotD 101+. If the restrictions weren't so heavy people would be able to get in easier. Having something in DF has no negative effect. The restriction on 51-100 just seems silly. So yes get rid of that.

But the fixed group thing needs to change. A big reason as to why people are clearing things this patch is RF. Restricting things to fixed groups has obvious negative effects.