Raiding doesn't require that you complete with the same group, nor does it require a pre-made group at all.Isn't this.. exactly how raiding works...? You get 7 other people who will for the most part, stay the same people you'll do the fights with. not to mention like 100+ is optional. and you can't solo or probably don't want to do it with random people, unless you get lucky.
You can get a matched group through Raid Finder. You can complete A9S with 7 people and A10S with a completely different set of people.
This was an addition made this tier, raiding has always worked with statics required before now, and even now there is a VERY low chance you will get any further than A9S with pug groups in raid finder due to the coordination involved.
Make a party finder for a POTD leaderboard group and play with them. It's not hard. If you really want to do this then you should be willing to do at least that.
Honestly a much better request would be not requiring you to restart from level 50 every time you wipe. So few people have time for that.
Simply not true. You could PF raids dating back to T1, and then complete T2 with an entirely different party.
Agreed, I think that there are a lot of very poor decisions made regarding the new POTD floors and their restrictions.Honestly a much better request would be not requiring you to restart from level 50 every time you wipe. So few people have time for that.
I don't really want to do it that badly, to be honest. I'd like to check it out, but the restrictions make it meh. It's really too bad, Square keeps developing content with a lot of promise, but then makes it restrictive or not fun somehow that completely ruins it. Despite them adding so much to the game, it feels like the game is getting smaller and smaller to me.Make a party finder for a POTD leaderboard group and play with them. It's not hard. If you really want to do this then you should be willing to do at least that.
Last edited by Kaurie; 11-03-2016 at 06:02 AM.
T1 and T2 were the easiest of the path, and (except maybe t2 with playing hot potatato with rot.) Anyone could do those, but when it came to t4 and 5, (3 was an obvious joke) No way in hell would you do those with a random group due to how much coordination was needed.
This isn't a debate about difficulty, this is a debate about capability. In all raids since the beginning of raids, you were never forced to enter the 2nd floor/turn with the same group as the 1st (or the 5th with the same group as the 4th) etc.T1 and T2 were the easiest of the path, and (except maybe t2 with playing hot potatato with rot.) Anyone could do those, but when it came to t4 and 5, (3 was an obvious joke) No way in hell would you do those with a random group due to how much coordination was needed.
My point was you aren't GOING to, of course you aren't forced, But, No one is going to do content with a group that they know will not accomplish anything. Floor 100+ is for the "hardcore" type, so they know the same rules may apply, You will want to do them with people you trust.
One is locked out by force, the other is locked out by morality.
My point is that I'd like to be able to do floors 51-100 with whoever. 101-120 with X friends who are online, and then maybe 121-130 with Y friends who pop on. With my static, I know 7 talented other individuals that I could make 35 different party compositions with.My point was you aren't GOING to, of course you aren't forced, But, No one is going to do content with a group that they know will not accomplish anything. Floor 100+ is for the "hardcore" type, so they know the same rules may apply, You will want to do them with people you trust.
One is locked out by force, the other is locked out by morality.
But our point is that you don't get the OPTION in Palace 101-200. At least allow the option for the brave.My point was you aren't GOING to, of course you aren't forced, But, No one is going to do content with a group that they know will not accomplish anything. Floor 100+ is for the "hardcore" type, so they know the same rules may apply, You will want to do them with people you trust.
One is locked out by force, the other is locked out by morality.
Floors 101-110 have been solo'd, I don't see any legitimate reason for locking players out of 100+ if they wish to pug it, as players can pug savage content. I might not go in solo, but I definitely want to do floor 100+ with a friend and 2 other pugs (he's also interested) but we don't have two others who play at the same time constantly, so now a large amount of content is locked for no good reason.
If people want to slam their face against 'impossible' odds, why not let them? Enforce a proper composition if you go in with a matched party and have a restriction on requiring +60 or over for your weapons and armour, easy as that.
TBH the fact that it's not possible to save pomanders between floor sets in a matched party makes it unviable to do them that way to begin with. I'd prefer this restriction to stay, because people who do it outside of a fixed party would be gimped pretty badly and then we'd get even more complaints about how it is 'impossible'.Simply not true. You could PF raids dating back to T1, and then complete T2 with an entirely different party.
Agreed, I think that there are a lot of very poor decisions made regarding the new POTD floors and their restrictions.
I don't really want to do it that badly, to be honest. I'd like to check it out, but the restrictions make it meh. It's really too bad, Square keeps developing content with a lot of promise, but then makes it restrictive or not fun somehow that completely ruins it. Despite them adding so much to the game, it feels like the game is getting smaller and smaller to me.
The reason you have to start at floor 51 is because floors 51 to 100 are counted for the leaderboard.I understand why they did this, but I feel that the best option would be for players to be able to convert their matched party saves into a fixed party save once they reach floor 100 (or just allow players who beat floor 100 to start from floor 101 with a fixed party like how you can start from 51 if you beat floor 50).
Honestly don't like that myself, wish the leaderboard was only 101+, but alas.
Last edited by FoxyAreku; 11-03-2016 at 08:07 AM.
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