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  1. #101
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    NatSilverguard's Avatar
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    Nat Silverguard
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by TiaHariberux3 View Post
    People knew such rewards are coming since they said they will change rewards but now alot are complaining instead of saying "gratz to top10 sick minion". Why ppl want everything (in a easy way). There are so many exclusive items that u cant get why complain about this (like going to fanfest irl gg ez). Wolf mark rewards would be terrible ppl would go into pvp like in the past and afk for tomes/marks.
    some people are just born entitled j3rkfaces...

    if you want them so bad, work on them, in other words "git gud"...
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  2. #102
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    Falen_Nadleeh's Avatar
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    Falen Nadleeh
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    Ragnarok
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    Archer Lv 60
    There are some hunters, who are here since the beginning, who have the 2 legacy mounts, the preorder and collector editions mount&minions & bahamut & dalamud, the shantotto minion from the FFXI event, the golem from dragon quest.
    I'm one of those.
    It is true that as today, neither collection, minions, mounts, both, cannot be 100% completed by the great majority of players because there are some that are no longer possible to get.
    I mean yeah, unless you are a legacy players and you never stopped playing the game since the start and did all the seasonals events, and bought all soundtracks & plushies and shit, you cannot do this collection.
    But I'm one of those, and we are a few and some.
    As today I have 208/210 minions and 56/69 mounts and all those I am missing I can get, anytime.
    Whatever our reasons for farming minions & mounts are, may it be because we think it's cute, because of OCD, or just because we like it, this is huge for us.
    Make an achievement saying "play 1000 feast matchs for this minion", I will do it. But the way they did this is really different and hardcore on another level because it's time limited and we have to be good, we have to compete against each other (hunters), and against pro pvp players.
    Someone told me that if I got so many already it's because I put a lot of effort in it and I can go the extra mile for the Feast season 3 rewards, and it's not really wrong.
    I will do it, at least I will try to do it. From 3.45 to 3.55 I will most likely play PVP a HUGE LOT, and maybe I will get some rewards, but getting the 4 rewards (top 10 solo and top 10 group) will be really really difficult.
    I will be really bummed if this fails because it will mean that my collection can no longer be achieveable to 100%, BUT, at least I would have tried and if can't do it this will maybe relieve me of some stress, but also take off a huge part of why I like this game.
    Some people aim to be world first or server first on raid content, me and some others aim to be server first m&m collectionist.
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    Last edited by Falen_Nadleeh; 11-02-2016 at 08:27 PM.

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  4. #103
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    SilkaN's Avatar
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    Reginaux Vannaire
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    Ragnarok
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    Ninja Lv 80
    I don't see the problem to be honest, the ones putting the most effort into something should get the best results and rewards too.
    It's a typical case of equality of opportunity vs equality of outcome.
    And the latter one sucks. It really sucks hard.
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  5. #104
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    NatSilverguard's Avatar
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    Nat Silverguard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falen_Nadleeh View Post
    stuff
    i didnt mean to belittle your acheivements, anything that was done with passion should be commendable, but when you (i mean the OP) start to whine, then it's a turn-off.

    talk nice, present your case properly at the right forum and believe me you'll receive much support from the community.
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  6. #105
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    TiaHariberux3's Avatar
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    Empty Inside
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    Lich
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Falen_Nadleeh View Post
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    That's not how collecting works just because u there from the start doesn't mean anything. Also you can be sure u wont get into top 10as new player sorry to destroy your dreams. Lol
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  7. #106
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    Hyperia's Avatar
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 100
    They really REALLY want people to PVP.
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  8. #107
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    Ryuko Kanzeon
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    Hyperion
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    Summoner Lv 90
    As a person who enjoys PvP... I would be okay with title rewards. I think that would be a fun and fair way to 'show off' my achievement. Not that I'm one of those people expecting FFXIV to be a WoW clone, but WoW has offered title rewards for PvP seasons for a long time and I really think this is the way to go... You get to show off your achievement without having to constantly update your glamour.
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  9. #108
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    Falen Nadleeh
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    Ragnarok
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by TiaHariberux3 View Post
    That's not how collecting works just because u there from the start doesn't mean anything. Also you can be sure u wont get into top 10as new player sorry to destroy your dreams. Lol
    I'll try anyway, if I can't get top 10 then I'll try top 100 for the mount. We'll see.
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  10. #109
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    LineageRazor's Avatar
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    Lineage Razor
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by NatSilverguard View Post
    if you want them so bad, work on them, in other words "git gud"...
    As I mentioned earlier in the thread, even if all the collectors stepped up and became champion PvPers, dominating both the solo and team brackets - as long as there's more than ten of them (and there ARE, bet your life on it), some of them are going to miss out. It's not exactly complex math we're talking about here. This isn't a problem that can be solved by gittin' gud. Collectors that have managed to stay up-to-date from the beginning have finally hit their wall. The exclusivity of these items is simply too high.

    I feel for these guys, even the so-called whiners.
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  11. #110
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    Kharlan Lynare
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    Excalibur
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    I'm not against exclusivity per se, but the lack of consistency from SE really bothers me.

    The SCOB titles, the Gordias mount, and the Midas minion are all still obtainable even though their respective PVE "seasons" are over and the encounters have been nerfed via echo, overgearing, and skill changes. Raids see their lockouts removed, allowing you to spam floors to obtain gear that used to be gated by weekly waits. EX Trial mounts like the ponies and birds get drop rate increases. It's fairly obvious the devs don't care about making exclusive PVE rewards, so why is it different for PVP? Why should PVP get this type of rewards when no other content in the game does?

    I also don't think it's fair to compare the Feast rewards to other now-unobtainable rewards like Yokais or RL purchases - those weren't limited to small number of players per datacenter. As long as you were playing during the right time window, you were able to obtain them. The ranking system ensures most players won't get these items even if they're actively participating.
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    Last edited by solracht; 11-02-2016 at 10:15 PM.

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