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    Greedalox's Avatar
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    Blufnix Greedalox
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    I'm a tad bit confused. People don't like collectables on the mogstation, nor the exclusivity of hardwork in game? A collector doesn't need to have everything to have a collection. There's some very cool things that are out of my reach in this game, but it's more of a put up or shut up situation instead of RIP.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    If you cant complete the set, you can as good as throw all away!
    lol.
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    Vardy Davout
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    Agree with the sentiments of the few PvPers in this thread, also there's an elephant in the room I'm surprised no one is talking about: people paying for boosts to get into the top ranking slots League of Legends promo style.

    Personally, I don't take a strong position on this but I dunno about having a good chunk of the queue suddenly filled with boosters. Doesn't seem legit to me but I guess if no actual cash trades hands it's kosher to SE. I've seen in other PvP games though that boosting is severely frowned about / outright disallowed because it ruins the integrity of the ranking system.

    The funny thing is that many elitists complaining about people being bad in PvE are probably prime candidates to contemplate boosting in PvP; whole different ballgame and many can beat up on scripted AI but can't do jack squat vs a live person.
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    Last edited by Auteur; 11-03-2016 at 04:57 AM.

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    Depravicus Mana
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    Shiva
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    Lancer Lv 19
    They keep trying to incentivize people to do pvp. Gear glamour, mounts, now minions, seasons. Nothing has worked and nothing will. I will never touch this game mode just like ill never touch the hot garbage that is verminion. I remember they even shoehorned in this "pvp" into a story instance once. I felt dirty after having finished it.

    But still they will try to make it work. And keep failing ...
    I wonder how the japanese community is pvp wise.
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    Aviars Lightsworn
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    Exodus
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    Quote Originally Posted by razzgrizz3 View Post
    They keep trying to incentivize people to do pvp. Gear glamour, mounts, now minions, seasons. Nothing has worked and nothing will. I will never touch this game mode just like ill never touch the hot garbage that is verminion. I remember they even shoehorned in this "pvp" into a story instance once. I felt dirty after having finished it.

    But still they will try to make it work. And keep failing ...
    I wonder how the japanese community is pvp wise.
    "Wow I hate this mode, it shouldn't get anything special because I don't like it!" - razzgrizz3
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Omega
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    Fact is, I would never touch PvP with a 10 foot barge pole. I hated PvP in League, I hated PvP in WoW, I hated PvP in RuneScape, I absolutely despise the Call of Duty franchise. But ya know what, I hope SE makes PvP work. It might not be a PvP focused game, but more PvP needs to happen. Be it through exclusive minions or mounts, etc, it needs to happen. In fact, and I am actually being serious here, give PvP exclusive rewards equivalent to 100x that of PvE content. And I speak as someone who will never touch PvP. But throw enough exclusive rewards in there and a LOT will bite to try and get it.
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    White Mage ~ Sage ~ Astrologian
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Broken Boar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    Fact is, I would never touch PvP with a 10 foot barge pole. I hated PvP in League, I hated PvP in WoW, I hated PvP in RuneScape, I absolutely despise the Call of Duty franchise. But ya know what, I hope SE makes PvP work. It might not be a PvP focused game, but more PvP needs to happen. Be it through exclusive minions or mounts, etc, it needs to happen. In fact, and I am actually being serious here, give PvP exclusive rewards equivalent to 100x that of PvE content. And I speak as someone who will never touch PvP. But throw enough exclusive rewards in there and a LOT will bite to try and get it.
    I really like your attitude. People need to quit trying to remove aspects of the game that they dislike and understand that everyone has different interests. I love the idea of PVP even though I never play it, seeing as how I'm much more into PVE.
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    Praesul Presul
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    Balmung
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    Being a minion/mount collector in an MMO is always a losing battle. There will always be content that you can't do, achievements you can't get, events you can't attend. Limited time only things that you'll miss out on, it ALWAYS happens.

    Not all content is made for you and not all content is MEANT to be for you, this will be true for practically ANY modern MMO and I don't see why now would be any different. They shouldn't withhold exclusive rewards just because some people can't stand not having everything in the game (which has been impossible already for a while)
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    Aryn Tatsuuchi
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    PvP...

    When done well, it is self sustaining content.
    The people playing it provide the content for the people they go up against.


    That type of content is great for developers, as it provides a lot of return on investment for dev time spent.



    That said, I don't really have any opinion on ffxiv's pvp as I have never participated.
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    Choco Feru
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    Ragnarok
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    Dancer Lv 100
    We had the same problem back then with Triple Triad tournaments and the exclusive cards for the 3 server firsts. People tradewinning to get to 1# easy, and then SE changed the formula adding decks to solve the problem, but I don't think they'll do the same with PVP.
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    PvP in a Final Fantasy game is a big mistake
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