Encyclopædia Eorzea ("Lore Book") Bug Report Thread

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PAGE: 16 and 18
HEADING: The Twelve and Creation
SUBHEADING: Menphina the Lover and Creation

Page 16: "Menphina is the...divine lover of Oschon"

Page 18, 5th paragraph in the creation myth: "Those winds did bring love into the heart of Llymlaen, yet though She longed to be with Oschon...

One of these things is not like the other. Do we have a love triangle in the Eorzean pantheon? Is Oschon the god of wanderers cause he can't commit? Who will ultimately claim the heart of the ruler of mountains?

Sorry all I could think about was cheap soap opera plotlines of two girls over one guy LOL. Errata though, it was stated prior to the creation myth Menphina was Oschon's lover, but Lewphon says the definitive tale says otherwise. Now I'm not about to call the creator of the Astrologian class a liar but...someone's wrong lol.

Tune in next time to "And I thought that god loved me!"

[Sounsyy]

Do we have a love triangle in the Eorzean pantheon? Is Oschon the god of wanderers cause he can't commit? Who will ultimately claim the heart of the ruler of mountains?

Errata though, it was stated prior to the creation myth Menphina was Oschon's lover, but Lewphon says the definitive tale says otherwise.

This isn't actually an error. Oschon and Llymlaen had a "thing" and by thing I mean Oschon seemed to like Llymlaen a little too much, but Llymlaen rejected one of his creepier advances, which led him to later take Menphina as His divine Lover. So not errata, just obscure lore.

Cousin to the Navigator's dagger, fishers believe that this wavekin was the blade that Llymlaen threw at Oschon in Her fury at having Her naked form espied. The incident led to the latter taking Menphina as His lover.

Mochizuki-san asked if there was some connection between Oschon and Llymlaen, Oda-san answering that in mythology there were several connections, Oschon being the god of mountains, Llymlaen being the goddess of the seas. He mentions that there are even stories that mention a curious Oschon sneaking a peek at a bathing Llymlaen, to which the goddess replies by throwing a knife at the peeping Wanderer. Mochizuki-san finds this absurd, but Oda-san mentions that similar types of stories exist even in Greek mythology.

[Anonymoose]

One of these things is not like the other.

Oschon and Llymlaen had a "thing" and by thing I mean Oschon seemed to like Llymlaen a little too much, but Llymlaen rejected one of his creepier advances, which led him to later take Menphina as His divine Lover. So not errata, just obscure lore.

Barring the possibility that I'm just missing an obvious bridge here ... (2 a.m. plus Greek-inspired god-math? Big possibility.) ... can it not be both? The creation story seems to omit the connection between Menphina and Oschon ("divine lovers"), so is it not odd that it would say that Llymlaen was over the moon (pun intended) for him when all we know is that he spied on her naked and got a knife thrown at him?

Even if it's not an error, it's weird for nothing to close that gap, no? To be more specific, the creation story says that his winds brought love into her heart, but they never had children because they were rarely together. And the dagger-throw is where he refocused his interests on Menphina. So, if his very existence won her over, how do we get from there to him feeling "curious" enough to peep on her, and her being "furious" enough at him to throw a knife?

[Sounsyy]

Even if it's not an error, it's weird for nothing to close that gap, no? To be more specific, the creation story says that his winds brought love into her heart, but they never had children because they were rarely together. And the dagger-throw is where he refocused his interests on Menphina. So, if his very existence won her over, how do we get from there to him feeling "curious" enough to peep on her, and her being "furious" enough at him to throw a knife?

To be fair, yeah, this is the first time we've seen any mention of Llymlaen reciprocating any feelings towards Oschon. But it is strange, now that I've gone back and read the creation myth again that they make no mention of Menphina winding up with Oschon. I still don't see it necessarily as an error or a name swap, but it is definitely an odd thing to leave out.

I wonder though...

Legend states that once a normal fish, the flounder was stepped upon by the Wanderer during one of His journeys, and left for dead. Upon finding the fish, the Navigator succeeded in breathing life back into the denizen of the deep, but could not restore it from its new flattened form.

...was Llymlaen following Oschon around? Did she long to be with him so much that she tried to follow him on his journeys? Maybe Oschon's disregard for the life Llymlaen birthed into the world was what eventually drove her to reject Oschon's transient visits to the seaside. Though if I had a knife handy, I'd probably toss it at a peeping Oschon too.