Request : In Stormblood, allow us to gear without tomestones

[AmeliaVerves]

I don't know if someone mentioned that before, but i think you forget about the fact that there are different types of players in this game.

Giving you dungeon loot of same ilvl as the ones from the tomestones would make it too easy for casual players to gear up. Sorry to say that, but the FF14 dungeons are way too easy to explain that huge benefit. :/ They solved the problem of ilvl caps with the last patch, so you are now able to enter a content, even though your ilvl is too low. That goes for every content. So it is a fair system for gearing up by capped tomes. I am raiding, but i also have to work and therefore cannot play the whole day to gather tomes or dungeon drops as fast as others would be able to. It would make it too easy for casual players to enter content, they're MAYBE(!!!) not skilled enough for.

It's a never ending argument between hardcore players and casuals, i think. :/ Is it boring to gather tomes? Indeed. But there are already different ways too get them! And tbh, i reached the cap in the first week after patch during 2 days because you get a whole lot of bonus EVERYWHERE. Therefore: 2nd week after patch -> 900 tomes -> 2 pieces can be bought -> 2 parts 260 + 10/11 parts 225 -> enough to enter Alex normal! Suggesting you had no 230/240 pieces (then you could have entered Alex normal during the first days!).

[Reynhart]

Giving you dungeon loot of same ilvl as the ones from the tomestones would make it too easy for casual players to gear up. Sorry to say that, but the FF14 dungeons are way too easy to explain that huge benefit. :/

Too easy...the dungeons....you mean the things that you do in roulette way under lvl 60 that still allow you to buy ilvl230 freely ...?
How would you justify earning 100 tomes of lore by doing a lvl50 dungeon ? Or, worse 120 lore by doing a leveling roulette that would put you in Ifrit story mode ?
Farming tome has never been hard, it's just boring...

Yes, there are different ways of getting them...but it's still the same system that we got since 2.0 and that we'll probably suffer throughout the next years...while dungeon gear will still have no impact whatsoever and will just gather dust...or reward you with a few GC seals.

[AmeliaVerves]

Well, i was not talking about 230 lore gear, but about the sophistic one, some other people mentioned here. That's why i was talking about the cap. Since there is no cap to lore anymore, why should you worry about it? ._. Do your dungeon runs and buy it afterwards?

And the dungeons ARE easy, or do you really disagree with that? o.o Why should SE make it possible for players to gear up to ilvl 260 during just (if lucky) a few hours? Sure, it would be nice for us players, but not for SE. They would loose so much money, because players would gather all they need really quick and then maybe stop playing until next patch. No game producer would want that. xD
They give us enough possibilities to gear up and even give away the once best in slot gear for casual players after some time. (See Mhach raids and the 240 gear).

Btw they implemented a way to use the "few" GC seals for.

[Khalithar]

Too easy...the dungeons....you mean the things that you do in roulette way under lvl 60 that still allow you to buy ilvl230 freely ...?
How would you justify earning 100 tomes of lore by doing a lvl50 dungeon ? Or, worse 120 lore by doing a leveling roulette that would put you in Ifrit story mode ?
Farming tome has never been hard, it's just boring...

This. I've been thinking on a similar thing myself, it does bother me when my tomestone gear from the last tier is superior to the gear from the new dungeons. In a perfect world to me, the tomestone armor/accessories should also drop in dungeons with the tomestones acting as "RNG insurance" for things that refuse to drop. I'm fine with keeping the weapon locked behind a system like Alexander, although the 7 week wait is a little excessive in my opinion.

[AmeliaVerves]

7 week wait is a little excessive

I disagree with that because the weapon can be your best in slot piece and therefore SHOULD be hard to achieve. Even if it can be upgraded afterwards.
It will be easy to get in the future, but for now it's good that it's hard to get.

[Khalithar]

I disagree with that because the weapon can be your best in slot piece and therefore SHOULD be hard to achieve.

It's not hard, it's tedious.

Edit:

Or are you going to tell me that you honestly believe that doing a 7-10 minute fight once a week for 7 weeks is challenging? Granted A12 was a bit difficult initially but people more or less have it down at this point.

[AmeliaVerves]

That might be true, maybe hard is not the perfect word, i meant it is good that you have to bring some patience and work for it over weeks and not just some days.
Sorry for bad wording!

I still think that the weapons (the new 260 ones right now!) are too good to be given away more easily. Even if the stats are not great for your class, the main stat itself is quite high.


I feel like you would like to have a way to equip your character faster and in shorter time than you can do now and i can totally understand. As a non-raider there are few possibilities to reach a higer ilvl just now. But there will be another Mhach run in the future which will likely give you 260 stuff too. So maybe try not to hurry and wait for things to happen?
Btw i can understand that farming tomes is boring and you would like an alternative, but it's easy to go on with the system as it is right now, because they can copy a lot of code they already used, so the work is less than it would be with including a new system. :/

[Khalithar]

i meant it is good that you have to bring some patience and work for it over weeks and not just some days.

I disagree again. I've been farming Sophia Ex and have 5 of the weapons with around 30 something totems left over because I'm saving them for when they add the bird for 99 totems. Getting a Sophia weapon is more difficult but less tedious than getting a tomestone weapon.

[AmeliaVerves]

Do you even read what i said? I was NOT talking about sophia weapons. And the 260 weapons are BETTER than sophia ones (not considering 2nd stats right now!!!), because the main stat is higher and they can be upgraded. o.O

And i never said A12 is challenging, please read my post above, where i apologised for bad wording.

[Reynhart]

Well, i was not talking about 230 lore gear, but about the sophistic one, some other people mentioned here. That's why i was talking about the cap. Since there is no cap to lore anymore, why should you worry about it? ._. Do your dungeon runs and buy it afterwards?

That's the thing, I'm talking about the uncapped gear, especially Law. You had to farm a full set of Law to enter Gordias normal. No other option.

Now, you have the option of buying really expensive crafted gear or doing Savage raid...which are still farily restrictive.
Apart from that, you had to farm at least the Eso accessories (+Lore ring) to enter Midas normal (Since the left side drop from Void Ark), and now, you have to farm the Lore accessories (+Scripture ring) to enter Creator.

You could stock whatever amount of dungeon gear you want, it wouldn't change anything about what content you have access to.