NEEDED Disciple of Magic DPS Jobs

[Claire_Pendragon]

I am confused by your earlier post then, where you said "sarcasm off" and then said that BRD/MCH are casters, due to cast bars and remaining stationary..

The very statement you quoted shows I want more Mages.

While I DO want more Mages, I'm not going to pretend there isnt enough ranged casters.

Why would I say this?
And mechanically they ARE casters. (Just not mages)

If RDM and BLU can melee, then I'd be pretty content with "mages" and to some extent, limited "casting".

Also, My post is not directed solely at people who want magic users/mages, but those who want more casters.

i do.

You believe people only play mages for cast bars? (Im a bit confused here, as your next statement seems to be directed towards me, but is only about you liking BLM, rather than supporting the prior statement.)

[Kaurie]

The very statement you quoted shows I want more Mages.

Why would I say this?
And mechanically they ARE casters. (Just not mages)

If RDM and BLU can melee, then I'd be pretty content with "mages" and to some extent, limited "casting".

I see, I was thinking of caster and mage as synonymous. I want more mages, but I am not holding my breath. I am not a long time final fantasy fan, but all of the magic users I want (necromancer, Mesmer etc.) are not Final Fantasy traditions. I personally don't like the look of a Red Mage or Blue Mage.

[Leogun]

I see, I was thinking of caster and mage as synonymous. I want more mages, but I am not holding my breath. I am not a long time final fantasy fan, but all of the magic users I want (necromancer, Mesmer etc.) are not Final Fantasy traditions. I personally don't like the look of a Red Mage or Blue Mage.

Agreed. I hear so much request for Red and Blue mage but none of it sounds like it'd actually be unique or interesting. At best, if the game introduces "subjobs" that slightly altered a current job, Red Mage would be a subjob of White Mage that trades holy magic for elements (fire/ice/lightning) to basically make White Mage into a moderate DPS with some utility. It still doesn't sound very fun.

Which I think is the problem with most suggestions on RDM, they look nice on paper but would likely be boring and the same in practice. I think if you really want to have a RDM in this game, you should be looking for extra elements to incorporate into it (likely from other jobs that don't exist in the game) to meld with the concept of RDM...As for Blue Mage, I always disliked that job in its normal fashion.

[SendohJin]

You believe people only play mages for cast bars? (Im a bit confused here, as your next statement seems to be directed towards me, but is only about you liking BLM, rather than supporting the prior statement.)

i believe BLMs who like playing BLM like being stationary and having cast bars, it feels powerful when that Flare/Fire IV timer is ticking. they also like to have tools to make them not die when stationary and those tools do not necessarily include moving or having instant cast.

if they made BLM so that you can Swift Cast triple Flare, i think that would be bad for the feel of the job the same way WM makes BRD feel like a bad job to play now (regardless of how both jobs are able to perform statistically).

[Leogun]

i believe BLMs who like playing BLM like being stationary and having cast bars, it feels powerful when that Flare/Fire IV timer is ticking. they also like to have tools to make them not die when stationary and those tools do not necessarily include moving or having instant cast.

if they made BLM so that you can Swift Cast triple Flare, i think that would be bad for the feel of the job the same way WM makes BRD feel like a bad job to play now (regardless of how both jobs are able to perform statistically).

I do like the casts of my BLM but I also like the instant cast procs, specifically Thunder spells (my favorite). It's a contrast. Sometimes it requires prep, sometimes you can focus concentrated bursts or swift AoE blasts and I like options on how these are applied, i.e. tossing a swift "double Flare". I wish there were a way to "save" channeled casts up so, if I have to move, it pauses the cast instead of cancels it and maybe either restarts at that point within a certain window or applies its channeled cast to whatever spell you want.