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    Kotemon's Avatar
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    I'm not surprised since it looks like the current story is setting up 4.0. Now had the expansion its own isolated story then I can see it only needing 2.x finished. However if it didn't need you to finish any main story or just 2.0, then at what ilevel would the gear start and end at? 3.0 picked it up right after 2.x with a i115 overlap. If 4.0 didn't need 3.0 main story then would the starting equipment and content be back to lv 50 with i150 and be the same level progression as 3.0? Otherwise imagine it not needing 3.0 or 2.0 main story finished but a average of i275 gear on a lv 60 job to access it. If anything that is another way of saying do main story to unlock content that'll get you gear needed to access the content.
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    Morningstar1337's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotemon View Post
    I'm not surprised since it looks like the current story is setting up 4.0. Now had the expansion its own isolated story then I can see it only needing 2.x finished. However if it didn't need you to finish any main story or just 2.0, then at what ilevel would the gear start and end at? 3.0 picked it up right after 2.x with a i115 overlap. If 4.0 didn't need 3.0 main story then would the starting equipment and content be back to lv 50 with i150 and be the same level progression as 3.0? Otherwise imagine it not needing 3.0 or 2.0 main story finished but a average of i275 gear on a lv 60 job to access it. If anything that is another way of saying do main story to unlock content that'll get you gear needed to access the content.
    My Speculation states an i230 overlap. But this is based on a precedent that like others can be broken easily and already had evidence against it

    The dungeons form 50-60 started at i55, then i60, and increasing by 10 from there until i100 by S.X's end (Keeper of the Lake and the Amdapoor Keep/Wanderer's Palace HM) at that time you could get i130 gear best. When HW started there were normal i115 gear while the Dusk Vigil drops i110 gear continuing the pattern of a i10 upgrade per dungeon until the Vault, which has I think i138 gear and is thus an upgrade to everyone at that point.

    However the pace of the ilevel upgrade in 2.X dungeons meant that their gear didn't supass the ilevel of the Augmented Ironworks gear and are equal tot Soldiery gear, for comparison's sake that was 2.5. In 3.5 the latest Dungeons now drop gear exceeding the 3rd Tomestone tier. While 3.5's dungeons still won't be able to surpass the equivalent to the Ironworks gear (Shire weapons) by the time this pattern continues then its likely that i270-275 is as you suggested the entry level into Stormblood. Which also menas that any adavntage (In this case not needing gear for the first 6 levels of the expansion) will not happen this time around.

    The other precedents I mentioned were how the outdated tome gear was redistributed. The Darklight Gear were direcvt drops in certain dungeons, while tokens for the AF 1.5 gear were given in dungeosn drops in the 3 dungoens afters. Likewise the Soldiery gear were not gotten from Hunt selas. In HW's so far botht he Yasha gear and the AF2 gear are gotten from hunt selas as the dungeons int he respective patches outpaced the gear, making dungeon drops non viable, and I suspect the Eikonic gear will go the same route once Stomeblood released.

    The only precedent that might still stand is the 50 Job quest handing out the i90 gear for those that have them, as theya re artifact gear, and to give them a head start in the endgame now that the expansion is out (Plus having the higher tome gear be MSQ rewards), but they might turn around and break that as well by wither giving out the Eikonic gear (to give access to most of the dungeons) or no gear at all (something that seems likely)
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    Last edited by Morningstar1337; 10-24-2016 at 03:21 PM.

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    the thread continues ha
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