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    Quote Originally Posted by platorepublic View Post
    No more stoneskins between pulls. (Paladin)
    Just throwing this out there. The Pld wouldn't have to be casting Stoneskin between pulls if you were doing it already :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersun View Post
    Just throwing this out there. The Pld wouldn't have to be casting Stoneskin between pulls if you were doing it already :P
    Or they just don't have to regardless because it's not needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    Or they just don't have to regardless because it's not needed.
    The point of Stoneskin isn't because it's needed to help keep the tank alive. The point is to buy the healer a few additional seconds of time before they have to cancel clerics stance and start healing. From the perspective of a Scholar that Stoneskin can be the difference between the full Bio II, Miasma, Bio, Bane on a big pull or having to cancel early because the tank is getting wrecked by the big pull (and Gubal Hard definitely has a few large pulls where this can happen)

    Either way, unless you are running out of MP (...seriously?) there's no reason the healer shouldn't be casting Stoneskin at the end of the pull while the tank runs ahead and then the healer uses Sprint to catch up. Like there's virtually no reason not to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersun View Post
    The point of Stoneskin isn't because it's needed to help keep the tank alive. The point is to buy the healer a few additional seconds of time before they have to cancel clerics stance and start healing. From the perspective of a Scholar that Stoneskin can be the difference between the full Bio II, Miasma, Bio, Bane on a big pull or having to cancel early because the tank is getting wrecked by the big pull (and Gubal Hard definitely has a few large pulls where this can happen)

    Either way, unless you are running out of MP (...seriously?) there's no reason the healer shouldn't be casting Stoneskin at the end of the pull while the tank runs ahead and then the healer uses Sprint to catch up. Like there's virtually no reason not to do it.
    All of that is for the healer to manage, not for the tank to slow down the run by casting it on themselves thinking they're helping. So my point stands. For a scholar all stoneskin between pulls is going to do is make the fairy's first embrace go later when I'm not controlling it.

    ...and none of that means I don't use it (I do) but it's not necessary and certainly not a thing for the tank to stop to do.
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    Last edited by Alistaire; 10-23-2016 at 08:51 PM.