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    platorepublic's Avatar
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    Jace Snow
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    Why I love Dark Knight...

    No more pacification macros. (Warrior)

    No more stoneskins between pulls. (Paladin)

    Whenever I see DRK in a 4-man dungeon, I am like this will be a good run. (Just don't trigger living dead... ever. I'd rather you die.)
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    Alistaire's Avatar
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    Neither of those tanks should be doing either of those things.

    On the other hand, you can make your own bad habits if you really miss doing those on the other tanks:

    Set Flash as a crossclass skill. (This one's actually useful if you find yourself in a bad party and want to be kicked)
    Party line edgelord macros. (Bonus points if you make one for Dark Arts)
    Tell people you don't use Darkside because you find it "annoying". (I've seen this)

    I'm sure you can think of more as well. If you've been playing this game long enough at all, you'll know it's really not hard to be bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    Neither of those tanks should be doing either of those things.

    On the other hand, you can make your own bad habits if you really miss doing those on the other tanks:

    Set Flash as a crossclass skill. (This one's actually useful if you find yourself in a bad party and want to be kicked)
    Party line edgelord macros. (Bonus points if you make one for Dark Arts)
    Tell people you don't use Darkside because you find it "annoying". (I've seen this)

    I'm sure you can think of more as well. If you've been playing this game long enough at all, you'll know it's really not hard to be bad.
    You are missing the point. I am a healer main and I never play tank. Re-read my post.
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    ZhaneX's Avatar
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    Zana Amariyo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    Tell people you don't use Darkside because you find it "annoying". (I've seen this)
    That is plain and simple the most obvious way to spot an inexperienced Dark Knight. I know because I used to keep it off most of the time, only putting it on for bosses since I didn't want to bother with mana management during trash mob pulls. I started keeping it on at all times as I became more accustomed and comfortable playing the job over time. It stopped feeling "Annoying" to have to bother with managing MP during trash, and just became natural and easy.
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    Kabz Il
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    I'm the opposite. Even after all this time I find DRK to be the squishiest and generally they require a lot more effort to heal in dungeons. WAR brings more DPS and personal healing so it's a faster run, and PLDs pretty much don't require me to leave Cleric Stance ever.

    I guess it comes down to your own experiences. ;p
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    Kamui Custom
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    I always prepare myself mentally when the tank is a Dark Knight. Based on my highly limited and biased opinion, DRK are the tanks that usually have to be babied the most. Maybe it's because they have a lot of buttons to press or whatever. And I've stopped using my WHM during DF runs because I despise being paired with DRKs. The extra effort of coordinating my Holy spam with his Blood Price becomes annoying after doing it over and over, when i can just stick to my main, SCH, and DPS the hell out of all dungeons irregardless of tank.
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    I agree with others. DRK seems to be the squishiest Tant, at least in my opinion.

    PLD have alot of damage mitigating abilities. WARs have large HP + pretty good self-heal to the point where they can -occasionally- solo dungeon boss when everyone else died. DRK just seem very ...squishy. When I play as WHM I have to be ware of when I Holy since stunning mobs = no MP regen for the DRK.
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    Felix Feliday
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    Quote Originally Posted by platorepublic View Post
    No more stoneskins between pulls. (Paladin)
    Just throwing this out there. The Pld wouldn't have to be casting Stoneskin between pulls if you were doing it already :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersun View Post
    Just throwing this out there. The Pld wouldn't have to be casting Stoneskin between pulls if you were doing it already :P
    Or they just don't have to regardless because it's not needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    Or they just don't have to regardless because it's not needed.
    The point of Stoneskin isn't because it's needed to help keep the tank alive. The point is to buy the healer a few additional seconds of time before they have to cancel clerics stance and start healing. From the perspective of a Scholar that Stoneskin can be the difference between the full Bio II, Miasma, Bio, Bane on a big pull or having to cancel early because the tank is getting wrecked by the big pull (and Gubal Hard definitely has a few large pulls where this can happen)

    Either way, unless you are running out of MP (...seriously?) there's no reason the healer shouldn't be casting Stoneskin at the end of the pull while the tank runs ahead and then the healer uses Sprint to catch up. Like there's virtually no reason not to do it.
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