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  1. #201
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    Morningstar1337's Avatar
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    Aurora Aura
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJerome View Post
    there can really only be one author - Rammbroes Zasertylsyn, who as a founding member of the Circle of Knowing would be party to such secrets but as now a member of the Sons of Saint Coinach would have the time to actually write it all up.
    Wouldn't it be callous (at best) of him to put information on Phoenix then? This was his colleague and the one man to saved Hydaelyn from certain destruction. Plus I doubt that everyone in Sharlayan would pass up the chance of summoning a Primal for research or power and that the Sons would be able to smuggle the books to Eorzea (where the author would be if your headcanon is true) so easily. Especially given the proximity to the House of Splendors.
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  2. #202
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    There doesn't seem to be any difference between Eikons and Primals, after all; Eikon is just the Allagan term for them, much like Primal is the current term for them (except for Garleans).

    It was only after the original Bahamut was defeated by the Allagans did the people of Meracydia took to summoning them. It was noted that no evidence existed of summoning took place prior to his defeat and was speculated that a 3rd party was involved teaching them the method... so Asciens most likely.

    Many Eikons were summoned, it's just that the Triad were the most powerful of the bunch. They also warred against each other as well.

    Bahamut was known a the "dawn wyrm", while Tiamat was "dusk wyrm"
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  3. #203
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    There doesn't seem to be any difference between Eikons and Primals, after all; Eikon is just the Allagan term for them, much like Primal is the current term for them (except for Garleans).
    IDK, I still think the circumstances of an eikon's summoning might be the difference. Odin's Sword, the Tree, Bahamut's corpse. It still seems possible that an eikon requires a host object to be transformed into a deiform entity. Whereas Primals seems to just appear out of think air (Except for Shiva and Thordian, but the former has been able to transform back at will so there might be another factor in play)
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  4. #204
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    It was only after the original Bahamut was defeated by the Allagans did the people of Meracydia took to summoning them. It was noted that no evidence existed of summoning took place prior to his defeat and was speculated that a 3rd party was involved teaching them the method... so Asciens most likely.
    Well, Tiamat did say that an Ascian taught her how to summon Bahamut...
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  5. #205
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    Just got notification from the SE Store that my Encyclopedia has shipped. Took them long enough.
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  6. #206
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    If it states Kan-E's age as 28, does it give the age of the other seedseers? I would think E-Sumi isthe oldest.
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

  7. #207
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    J'talhdi Belhi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    If it states Kan-E's age as 28, does it give the age of the other seedseers? I would think E-Sumi isthe oldest.
    She is the oldest of her siblings. There are Padjal older than her.
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  8. #208
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    The distinction between Seedseer and Seedseer Council and Padjal Hearer is blurry for me right now having just woken up, but you're right E-Sumi Yan is reported to have stopped counting the years after he hit 100.
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  9. #209
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    Is there any information on Ysayle?

    It seems I've seen pages/ info on just about every other topic/ character except her.
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    Midori Shiranui
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    One interesting thing I noticed in the section on voidsent is the mention that Cuchulainn was once a champion who wielded auracite to control primals, which seems to imply that many of the higher tier voidsent are actually corrupted warriors of light?
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