If raids had a different story in a savage mode what would you want it to be?

[Colorful]

It would be nicer to get one longer and thought out story that isn't boring until the very last chapter rather than 2 separate mediocre stories honestly, I do like the idea of an extra floor or two for Savage mode though. Nothing major story wise, a defence system activating or something.

[Lambdafish]

People don't raid for story they raid for the challenge and the loot. I am really against locking story behind difficult content.

I raid for the story (to me the context of the bosses is all part of the story). Fighting long and hard and finding out the final boss of SCOB was Nael was extremely rewarding, and that kinda loses its magic when I see the awesome final boss cutscene on day 1 of the patch.

[Talraen]

Removed. :P

[Atoli]

People don't raid for story they raid for the challenge and the loot. I am really against locking story behind difficult content.

Back in 2.x, I raided for the story.
Since 3.x, I've had a hard time getting motivated to raid at all since there is nothing I care about locked behind savage.

[randysquirrel]

People don't raid for story they raid for the challenge and the loot. I am really against locking story behind difficult content.

Thanks for being the voice of the whole playerbase.
In coil, the story was the best reward, after a few weeks of struggling to get a boss down, getting the next bit of the story was awesome. Plus the fact the story itself was much better than in Alex

[Fevelle]

I don't get why people want to get rid of NM so bad. You already have the best loot in the game, now you want exclusive story + get rid of the content catered to the vast overwhelming majority of the playerbase?

[Talraen]

To all the raiders saying they did coil for story: that's the point, non-raiders also wanted to do coil for story, but couldn't. That's why Alex normal exists, and why they should never lock any story of any note behind raid content. Why do you want story only a tiny fraction of the player base will ever see? Just so you can lord it over them?

[LineageRazor]

The folks I raid with are capable, intelligent players, but very limited in their playtime each week due to family obligations. Capping tomestones on a weekly basis is a pipe dream for most of them, and the amount of time we actually play as a group each week amounts to about three hours. I don't think our situation is a unique one, either; there are many who play this game who grew up playing video games, love playing this game, but just don't have the free time that they used to have. As such, I'm generally against exclusive story rewards in the raids - particularly if the storyline is a crucial part of the game's story, as Coil was, rather than just a side-story, as Alexander was.

The same goes for "partial story" versus "full story", if the difference is more than just meaningless fluff.

Alexander did it right, imo.

[Atoli]

Why do you want story only a tiny fraction of the player base will ever see? Just so you can lord it over them?

No, so more people actually got an incentive to try raiding.

[Talraen]

No, so more people actually got an incentive to try raiding.

I have tried raiding for the story, was in my FC's first T5 clear group, and quit learning T6. I don't like raiding. It's clearly not for everyone, and it's particularly not for everyone who plays this game for the story. The dev team made the right call with Alex normal.