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    Quote Originally Posted by Krazymagic View Post
    No. It is the size of a tablet, so there is likely no active cooling solution. That fact alone gives strong hints to the type of power you're looking at. It will have to be a very low voltage processing core, in order to give it a decent battery life but more importantly to keep heat down.
    It doesn't need one - the architecture is flash memory based and would require next to no cooling
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krazymagic View Post
    No. It is the size of a tablet, so there is likely no active cooling solution. That fact alone gives strong hints to the type of power you're looking at. It will have to be a very low voltage processing core, in order to give it a decent battery life but more importantly to keep heat down.
    It's running a custom Nvidia Tegra, which makes it a bit of a mystery as to potential output. The Tegra that are in mobile devices now seem to work well, including managing heat levels. I can't say from experience though, just from reviews on products that have it.
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    The only site that is to be trusted right now in regards to THE SPEC is Nintendo and any other site that works with developers who have their hands on the kits to make or port games =\

    Speculate all you want, GI.biz has several developers with switch kits in house saying this kit is on par with the xbox one which would provide more then enough horsepower to run FFXIV and just about anything else on the market
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    Yeah, and that's always been a big selling point for Nintendo. They've never really separated themselves from old school fun (e.g. local co-op for 2-4 players). With how much we value convenience today, the ability to alter how you choose to play using the controller is such a great innovative move for a high profile gaming console. I know for a fact that I will be trying to get it on day one and I know for a fact that I will be using the separable controller like this...

    Must grow beer belly in preparation for NS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    Must grow beer belly in preparation for NS.
    Just don't go overboard with the belly. As tempting as it might be to be able to feed yourself by inhaling, expanding that belly so it tilts the plate down, it can leave quite a mess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    The big thing that would need to be looked at over graphics is how good the internet capabilities of the handheld are (naturally it will have them, but are they good enough to support an MMO?). We need to look at the switch as its minimum viable product, which is a handheld, and speculate whether or not it is a viable platform for the game. Then again... the trailer showed off handheld splatoon, so who knows.

    Other than that, storage capabilities of a handheld are another big issue, with 4.0 coming out, who knows how big this game will be (probably 30GB+ and rising).
    yeah from the looks of it the "portable" version of the Switch isn't remote play so much as downscale play so this would be the actual "minimum" of the Switch in regards to MMOs, still if they can pull it off id be nice. First time in a while im psyched for a console since it seems unique and not just a weaker PC in a box.
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    The graphics will be like tablet/mobile phone level graphics considering it has an Nvidia Tegra. It will look decent (1080p), but it definitely will not be as powerful as top-of-the-line desktop PC or gaming laptop.
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    Fried popoto enthusiast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    lol

    On that note though, I imagine they are not calling it the Wii Switch due to the consumer base of Nintendo products. There is a large number of consumers who know next to nothing about video games (I'm guessing mom's etc.) who didn't understand that the Wii U was a different system than the Wii.
    Indeed, and a lot of Moms and others who don't know consoles/games/etc... will buy these for kids/grand-kids thinking they are so cool. It'll be like finding a record player in the box when you expected a CD player.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gumbercules View Post
    yeah from the looks of it the "portable" version of the Switch isn't remote play so much as downscale play so this would be the actual "minimum" of the Switch in regards to MMOs, still if they can pull it off id be nice. First time in a while im psyched for a console since it seems unique and not just a weaker PC in a box.
    The trouble is that the Wii Switch is weaker than the thing you describe as a weaker PC in a box. So where does that leave a game that wants to raise the min spec and embrace the DX12 feature set?
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    I like what the Switch is showcasing so far to be honest, but i do not see it being a MMO friendly platform. Reason it gets my attention to begin with is cuz it doesn't seem to be playing at being a PC. At most the "portable" hardware is going to be aimed at adequate lvls of 720p gaming/hour/frame and the docking station will have the "minimum" needed to beef that up to 1080 p gaming and maybe if lucky 4k streaming (not game related) So I feel it would be counter intuitive to develop ff 14 for it if we consider its portable version as the actual performance cap since as i said i don't see it being remote play, its downscaling. And i say this keeping in mind that imho "CPU" wise ff 14 is very well optimized vs other pc MMOs. (for example ff 14 for me plays tremendously well namely off what it gets from GPU alone vs wow were my cpu can still be an issue)
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    Also remember this:

    "With the announcement that Square Enix is considering a Nintendo NX port of Dragon Quest XI and Dragon Quest X, Yoshida-san also gave some details on the possibility of that consideration to be extended to Final Fantasy XIV."

    Having FFXIV be a portable game would be awesome. To be honest, even the D-PAD on the Switch Controller looks awesome to use with FFXIV crossbar system.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    The trouble is that the Wii Switch is weaker than the thing you describe as a weaker PC in a box. So where does that leave a game that wants to raise the min spec and embrace the DX12 feature set?
    Source on the DirectX12 please? Also, the specs posted here are fake, no real specs were released yet. N-Switch will probably be on par with a normal PS4 - slightly better than a XBOX One.

    Quote Originally Posted by lulunami View Post
    The graphics will be like tablet/mobile phone level graphics considering it has an Nvidia Tegra. It will look decent (1080p), but it definitely will not be as powerful as top-of-the-line desktop PC or gaming laptop.
    Judging by the NVIDIA article saying the GPU uses the same technology of their latest GPUs, it's a Pascal Tegra, so no one knows what it's capable of yet.
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