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    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorander View Post

    Thancred first calls himself a bard. Even though he, up to 2.2 quite obviously used gladiator skills, now he's been called a rogue and looks like one when he draws his weapons. Which happen to be a sword and a dagger, something we as players are incapable of equipping.
    Allow me to just point out all he's using is a mix between a recolored High Allagan Dagger and a regular dagger, not a sword and a dagger. We still can't mix and match which would be cool, but they are both rogue weapons.
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    Riley Fuller
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZhaneX View Post
    Just to nag at a couple things...



    Just because he calls himself a "Bard" doesn't mean he's referring to the combat support archers pioneered by the Job Tutor in XIV. He likely refers to himself more in the sense of a traditional poet or songwriter. So this is meaningless.


    Sure Yoshi-P is both, but that doesn't mean every songsmith in Eorzea has to be a bowman.


    Personally not sure I've ever seen this...an ability which uses a similar animation maybe, but I'm not sure I've ever explicitly seen it as Collective Unconscious.


    May change in 3.5, with the plan to (fingers crossed) implement the ability to glamour on different colored carbuncles for egis. Assuming the translation was correct. Granted they may all the same keep these colorations exclusive to these characters, but still.
    That was my point on the bard thing. In no way was he a player character bard. He just called himself that, and used gladiator skills.

    The first time Y'shtola uses it:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4My...=youtu.be&t=10

    Another time she uses it (about 10 minutes in)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEx3f3sJFME

    I mean.. really? You want to say that this isn't the AST skill collective unconciousness?

    Yes, we 'may' get egi glamours in 3.5. However, 'currently' those carbuncles are character specific and original to them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Allow me to just point out all he's using is a mix between a recolored High Allagan Dagger and a regular dagger, not a sword and a dagger. We still can't mix and match which would be cool, but they are both rogue weapons.
    Forgive my oversight. However, as you said: we cannot mix and match equipment. Which was my point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorander View Post
    The first time Y'shtola uses it:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4My...=youtu.be&t=10

    Another time she uses it (about 10 minutes in)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEx3f3sJFME

    I mean.. really? You want to say that this isn't the AST skill collective unconciousness?
    Given the fact that both of those video clips are taken from long, LONG before we even knew AST was a thing...I mean really? You think AST as we know it was in development as far back as 1.0?

    Yeah, from a story perspective it makes sense. She's Sharlayan Born, so it's possible she may have studied Astrology and picked up some of their skills, cross-classing things naturally what the game system won't let us.

    But in actuality, viewing it from the outside as a game? Saying "This skill looks like Collective Unconscious, so it must be" isn't different than the "Hints" of Dancer that you're vehemently against.
    It's far more likely that they took the animation and decided to reuse it. Nothing more, nothing less.
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