Lore Book Revelations

[Ametrine]

Do we have confirmed ages for Thancred and F'lhaminn? I keep thinking the two would need to be late 30s to 40 years old considering Minfillia was a little girl in 1.0's flashbacks with both Thancred and F'lhaminn being young adults there. Unless Mini was like 18 when she founded the Circle of Knowing, something feels off.

Krile thought Thancred was romantically interested in Minfillia, only for Thancred to end up being a father figure to her.... Even though he couldn't be but 5-10 years her senior.

The same goes with F'lhaminn, who is her adoptive mother, but F'lhaminn is cast as this sweet, matronly lady now, verses Thancred who is just a rugged version of his 1.0 kid-self.

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It bothers me that I can't pin a number down on them since I initially thought Thancred was really young when I first encountered him!

[Hinoto-no-Ryuji]

Do we have confirmed ages for Thancred and F'lhaminn? I keep thinking the two would need to be late 30s to 40 years old considering Minfillia was a little girl in 1.0's flashbacks with both Thancred and F'lhaminn being young adults there. Unless Mini was like 18 when she founded the Circle of Knowing, something feels off.

Thancred is 32, and F'lhaminn 37.

Minfilia was 20 when she founded the Path of the Twelve in 1570. Louisoix formed the Circle of Knowing 8 years prior to that.

[Belhi]

One part that gave me a double take is the section where it says 'The hands of time ever stopped at 20 and 3' makes it sound like Y'shtola doesn't age anymore.

I am also curious about Yda's actual age. She arrived as a refugee in Shalayan 20 years prior after having travelled their from Ala Mhigo. Since it seems to imply she was old enough to forage, she would have to be around 30 at least.

[StarDrake]

Taken together, this implies that Garlemald didn't make a play for Othard until after all of Ilsabard's nations were conquered, and since Dalmasca was taken before that, it's not a stretch to assume it was among them. There's kind of room for ambiguity in there - after all, taking Dalmasca apparently required airships, and could have always been an early foray into Othard before committing to a full campaign - so I cheated and skipped ahead to the proper Garlemald section, and lo and behold:

Yeah, I saw that part in the Garlean section too, and now I'm confused, because in my initial skimming I know I saw "Doma and Dalmasca" mentioned together as being states in Othard in another part of the book, but now I can't find it. Vexing.

What bits do you mean? I know the Au Ra creation myth has the Dawn Father and Dusk Mother "return[ing] to the heavens" after settling the strife between the Raen and Xaela, but I can't find anything in the Allagan section on Meracydia that even kind of hints them to be offspring of dragons.

Look on page 26 again.

I am also curious about Yda's actual age. She arrived as a refugee in Shalayan 20 years prior after having travelled their from Ala Mhigo. Since it seems to imply she was old enough to forage, she would have to be around 30 at least.

Yda's seems to be the only age being deliberately obscured. Most curious, isn't it?

(Near as I can tell, her age is not given in any part of the book.)

[Ametrine]

32 seems to be the magic age for men in this game, as Thancred, Aymeric, and Estinien are all 32. Weird!

Poor Thancred! Minifillia thanked him for loving her in place of her father when he's only a few years older than her! No wonder Krile assumed it was romantic instead of paternal affection.

[Hinoto-no-Ryuji]

Look on page 26 again.

Ah! Yeah, there it is.

Although I do agree that the naming scheme implies a connection of some kind, I don't know that it implies they're outright DESCENDANTS of dragons. It would also contradict everything we know (and everything in the book) regarding dragon life cycles and reproduction, and that's aside from it having been nixed by Koji Fox in a past interview/thread (that I conveniently can't find at the moment) where it was said that they decided against a draconic connection due to them appearing in an Ishgard expansion. Nah, I'd need more evidence than an apparent conflation of Bahamut and Tiamat with the Dawn Father and Dawn Mother of Auri myth to consider them anything more special than the other 5 Races.

[Belhi]

32 seems to be the magic age for men in this game, as Thancred, Aymeric, and Estinien are all 32. Weird!

Poor Thancred! Minifillia thanked him for loving her in place of her father when he's only a few years older than her! No wonder Krile assumed it was romantic instead of paternal affection.

Both him and F'lhaminn felt an amount of guilt over her fathers death. For Thancred it was because he felt if he hadn't been distracted flirting he would have seen what was happening before it happened. For F'lhaminn it was because she was actually involved in the incident though she and her collaborators never intended anyone to die.

I always felt it was probably more of an older brother kind of connection.

[ExKage]

It's very interesting to me what with the 4.0 trailer, that Yda's age is not defined.

Also, Yda (and her sister) are possibly 2 of only 3 Ala Mhigans with blue eyes. Especially blondeish blue eyes.

[boredomisboring]

Yeah, I saw that part in the Garlean section too, and now I'm confused, because in my initial skimming I know I saw "Doma and Dalmasca" mentioned together as being states in Othard in another part of the book, but now I can't find it. Vexing.

This confused me as well-- as in the Garlean section, it is implied to be a part of Ilsabard but in the 'Othard' section, it states that after the advent of airship technology, this opened the metaphorical doors to the Far East, a region that had been isolated up until that point-- and that the Garleans then set their sights on Doma and Dalmasca as a result.

So if the timeline from the other section is correct, could Dalmasca have been conquered before all of Ilsabard had been claimed?

[Shadotterdan]

Regarding the topic of Light derived voidsent that was discussed a while back. I don't think a void of light would just be nothingness, but I think it would be warped to the aspects of perfection and stuff like that. I think a great example actually and what I hope one would look like is "Sea" from XI. The Aerns specifically look like malevolent angels and all the other mobs there have weird alien forms.