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    Quote Originally Posted by Chalbee View Post
    I'm conflicted about this because I definitely don't believe you should be able to jump immediately into the endgame, BUT I also don't think that so much needs to be gated behind the MSQ. Specifically, I don't see why zones and jobs are gated behind the MSQ. I also don't see why the MSQ is so heavily padded/inflated. There could easily be 1/2 of the quests in the ARR storyline without losing any of the actual substance.
    The MSQ is the actual star of the game. The game is all about its story, and therefore, the MSQ. If you don't want to play the MSQ, it's like saying you don't want to play FFXIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexionSkylark View Post
    The MSQ is the actual star of the game. The game is all about its story, and therefore, the MSQ. If you don't want to play the MSQ, it's like saying you don't want to play FFXIV.
    Umm... no. each patch the MQS doesn't last me through to the next weekly lockout. even as someone who does care about the story it is only a very small part of the game and not a determining factor in why i sub 6 months at a time since Early Access 2.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexionSkylark View Post
    The MSQ is the actual star of the game. The game is all about its story, and therefore, the MSQ. If you don't want to play the MSQ, it's like saying you don't want to play FFXIV.
    You're right, we should all just unsub after we complete the MSQ for each content patch. After all, this game isn't about dungeons, or trials, or housing, or crafting, or Savage raiding; it's all about a series of dialogue boxes that the devs have freely given you the option to spam-click/esc button out of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexionSkylark View Post
    The MSQ is the actual star of the game. The game is all about its story, and therefore, the MSQ. If you don't want to play the MSQ, it's like saying you don't want to play FFXIV.
    Where did I say I didn't want to play the MSQ? I said the MSQ is padded/inflated. There are many, many extraneous fetch quests that add nothing to the story, and there is no reason for 3 jobs and a handful of zones to be completely inaccessible without finishing said inflated questline. It's not about the story, the story is great. It's not so black and white as "you either love the MSQ exactly as it is, or you hate FFXIV." Please be reasonable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chalbee View Post
    It's not so black and white as "you either love the MSQ exactly as it is, or you hate FFXIV." Please be reasonable.
    If the story is great, why you want new players to skip it entirely?
    And about it being inflated - Every book has that couple of chapters we skew over, every movie has that moment you use to go pee or something - That's not to say we should scrap the whole thing and just throw players at the ending of the 2nd third of the story. A MAJOR part of the FFXIV experience is in living the story, spending time with the characters, cherishing them, caring about them - and that takes TIME - How do you expect to build that kind of relation with the characters if you skip 2 expansions worth of stories?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexionSkylark View Post
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    Again, you're putting words in my mouth. Please quote where I said I would like new players to be able to skip the MSQ in its entirety. Because I'm pretty sure all I said is trim down the meaningless fetch quests. I didn't say remove characters or plot arcs. Do you realize the ARR MSQ is 284 quests long? Meaning brand new players have to complete 284 quests + job quests + whatever side quests they pick up before they can even set foot in Ishgard and think about taking up AST/DRK/MCH. That's excessive.

    It is possible to appreciate something and at the same time offer some ideas about how it may improve.
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