There Is No Dancer (yet)

[Dorander]

I honestly think that at this point it doesn't matter what logic is. People want dancer, and they'll grab at straws to get it..

This exactly. All the "Proof" to justify DNC being confirmed by this teaser trailer is circumstantial at best, and quite a bit of mental gymnastics to bend things to fit their own personal narrative and hype is the more likely the reality.

She has a weighted bit of fabric on a piece of cloth on her arm. Dancer Confirmed! The WoL isn't using a weapon at all, the Bare/Freelancer job is confirmed! The random guy is loading a cannon (and if you recall, they were using cannons in the heavensward cinematic), Cannoneer job double confirmed! There were Garlean's using Gunblades in the End of an Era Trailer (they shoot the WoL), Magitek Knight job confirmed! I think quiet a few in this thread really need to research what Occam's Razor is.

Honestly, up to this point they have not showcased any of the new jobs in any cinematic. This would be the first. They have tended to showcase the WoL's job. End of Era - He was a Warrior, Heavensward - Dragoon, Stormsblood - Monks Sparing on the hand of Rhalgr at the new hub. That's all.

[Pells]

Honestly, up to this point they have not showcased any of the new jobs in any cinematic. This would be the first.

This is bugging me. Up until now, we've had exactly two cinematic teasers: one for Heavensward, and one for Stormblood. Claiming that the very first has set some sort of recurring theme that all those thereafter must follow just seems to be reaching for straws. "They didn't do this the first time; they can't possibly have done this the second time." Please.

Unless you don't mean only the expansion teasers. In which case, the Heavensward launch trailer shows the new jobs. They just didn't show it to us until they'd already told us about them.

Or do you mean the ARR trailer? That one showed every single one of the -zero- new jobs we got.

And before then... well, I'm having trouble finding anything from 1.x apart from the opening cinematic. I can recall there being a archer, conjuror, gladiator and marauder fighting the marlboro -- all brand new classes at the time. Jobs were apparently introduced around patch 1.2, but if there's a cinematic teaser or trailer for that patch, I can't find it.

[Dorander]

This is bugging me. Up until now, we've had exactly two cinematic teasers: one for Heavensward, and one for Stormblood. Claiming that the very first has set some sort of recurring theme that all those thereafter must follow just seems to be reaching for straws. "They didn't do this the first time; they can't possibly have done this the second time." Please.

Unless you don't mean only the expansion teasers. In which case, the Heavensward launch trailer shows the new jobs. They just didn't show it to us until they'd already told us about them.

Or do you mean the ARR trailer? That one showed every single one of the -zero- new jobs we got.

And before then... well, I'm having trouble finding anything from 1.x apart from the opening cinematic. I can recall there being a archer, conjuror, gladiator and marauder fighting the marlboro -- all brand new classes at the time. Jobs were apparently introduced around patch 1.2, but if there's a cinematic teaser or trailer for that patch, I can't find it.

The "New" jobs for 2.0 were Summoner and Scholar. The End of an Era trailer only showed WAR, BRD, PLD, WHM, and BLM. SMN and SCH were not shown.The heavensward trailer ONLY showcased the WoL as a WAR then him as a DRG with a bunch of DRG. Not DRK, MCH, and AST. We got an in game look at them AFTER they were officially announced. This trailer is showing two MNKs. The girl is not a Dancer.

[Felis]

Or do you mean the ARR trailer? That one showed every single one of the -zero- new jobs we got.

No Summoner and no Scholar in the ARR trailer

[ThirdKeyOfSun]

Why are people being so aggressive with each other? D: Surely we can get our points and opinions across without it, right? I mean, we are arguing/debating BECAUSE we love the game and want new and exciting things for it. If we have that in common surely we can find it in ourselves to be more understanding and patient while expressing ourselves :<

[Evergrey]

Why are people being so aggressive with each other? D: Surely we can get our points and opinions across without it, right? I mean, we are arguing/debating BECAUSE we love the game and want new and exciting things for it. If we have that in common surely we can find it in ourselves to be more understanding and patient while expressing ourselves :<

Nah, when it comes to it where people have different opinions it automaticly turns into "We against Them" kind of mindset. Sad but true, some people find it difficult to have an open mind.

[Khalithar]

Why are people being so aggressive with each other? D: Surely we can get our points and opinions across without it, right? I mean, we are arguing/debating BECAUSE we love the game and want new and exciting things for it. If we have that in common surely we can find it in ourselves to be more understanding and patient while expressing ourselves :<

Because if someone has a different opinion than me that makes them wrong factually! /sarcasm

[Xiao_]

Looks exactly like the "proof" you all keep trying to insist.

actually if you scroll back a few pages, i state that there's no real proof either way which is why we're free to speculate, so i'm not sure who "you all" is supposed to be. it's incredibly simple, we have monks in game and they don't move like the red lady in the trailer. nor do they dress like her, nor do they have daggers/hidden blades. acting like its a 100% certainty that she's just a monk is just as stupid as acting like she's 100% dancer. so maybe instead of being a moron and talking as an authority on something that we QUITE LITERALLY don't know, you can accept that it's a possibility.

or just bury your head in the sand i guess, just like the "you all" that you're trying to patronise

[Dorander]

actually if you scroll back a few pages, i state that there's no real proof either way which is why we're free to speculate, so i'm not sure who "you all" is supposed to be. it's incredibly simple, we have monks in game and they don't move like the red lady in the trailer. nor do they dress like her, nor do they have daggers/hidden blades. acting like its a 100% certainty that she's just a monk is just as stupid as acting like she's 100% dancer. so maybe instead of being a moron and talking as an authority on something that we QUITE LITERALLY don't know, you can accept that it's a possibility.

or just bury your head in the sand i guess, just like the "you all" that you're trying to patronise

I wouldn't have to patronize you and those like yourself when there actually is, quite a bit of valid 'proof' in one direction. Here it is again where I posted it in another thread, but since I figure you are incapable of doing research, or taking the time to click links, I'll copy and paste.

Yda is a pugilist, she's been referred to as that in the story.

Papalymo is referred to as a thaumaturge.

Thancred first calls himself a bard. Even though he, up to 2.2 quite obviously used gladiator skills, now he's been called a rogue and looks like one when he draws his weapons.

Y'shtola has been referred to as a Conjurer, though she's quite often uses Collective Unconscious, which is an AST skill.

Milfilia had a single dagger, though she was never shown in combat so it's likely that she had no 'battle' class/job.

Urianger is an arcanist, however he wields a staff which is not possible by player arcanists, (though in the 3.4 story during his costume change he uses a book).

Alphinaud is an Arcanist, and as such wields a book and summon carbuncles of different colors.

Raubhan is a gladiator, and as I said in my post, used to dual wield swords. Though player gladiators are relegated to a single sword and shield.

That's just the scions and Raubhan. Most have classes, and use skills/weapons outside of what a player character can. So, by looking at the teaser trailer, with the fact that this mystery girl meets the WoL who has 100% been confirmed to be a monk with nearly the same fighting style, one can safely assume that she is a monk or a pugilist. NOT a dancer.

If it's revealed later that she is one, it'll be a first. Because up to this point, they have not showcased a single new job in any trailer. Plus, if dancer was the case, wouldn't have been more wise for Yoshi-P to have worn say a "Dance dance revolution" shirt instead of scarlet witch if they wanted to hint at that job?

Instead, they gave us a taste of the expansion, Ala Mhigo, the hand of Rhalgr (and the new hub) and two sparing monks. People are really grasping at straws and doing mental gymnastics to force a narative that isn't there. If Dancer is a job that we get with Stormblood, great! However, at this time there is absolutely nothing that we've been shown that even hints at it.

Maybe you, and yes I am referring directly to you "XIAO_" need to stop putting your fingers in your ears and/or burring your head in the sand when you are being all but slapped about the face with all the proof you need. Speculation is one thing, but forcing a narative that isn't there due to your own wants and desires for something isn't no longer speculation. It's conjecture at best, and flat out lying to yourself at worst.

Though we should all know by now that people like yourself will be the first to fly to the forums and scream in countless threads, berating S.E. for 'backtracking' on dancer because it was 'CONFIRMED!'

[Reynhart]

it's incredibly simple, we have monks in game and they don't move like the red lady in the trailer.

Is the concept of "cinematic action" or "cutscene" that hard to understand ?

So I suppose we'll receive the Ranger job since, in the ARR Opening, we saw the Mi'Qote creating a shield to protect the Warrior. And we'll also get the Devout from CNJ, that will infuse elemental magic into weapons, or a buff to Steel Cyclone because we clearly saw it bypassing Ravana's shield...and a buff to Holmgang, to use on multiple targets...and a new BLM skill to instantly charge a MNK limit break...which is obviously not Final Heaven since it clearly strikes in an AoE...