There Is No Dancer (yet)

[Evergrey]

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Personally I don't see what she does as "against everything we know with the monk". She uses her fists (like the monk) and legs (like the monk). The trailer show that she does have more fluid motions and uses her cloth while fighting. That to me is the only difference. But it could also be just something they added for the visual effect of the trailer. It's not like there has never been a trailer that show stuff that actually never appear ingame.

Also, "add a weapon"? If you're refering to the pictures where the girl have a blade attached to her arm, it's not like the Monk never had any blade weapons before. And that it's a hidden blade, remember the Sephirot Monk weapon? The one that looks like a glove but actually isn't a glove, and (only a small part tho) is hidden when not being used.

But like I said, no one is right or wrong at this point. I just personally don't see those 2 people in the trailer to be of different classes.
If it would turn out that she is a Dancer, well good for those who want a Dancer class. But when I'm watching the trailer and think that she's a Dancer I get kinda turned off. Because the Monk and the Dancer looks way to similare in the trailer then. Both use stances and fight with fists/legs. I thought SE wanted to make each class/job feel unique and special (as much as possible atleast).

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...why him fighting style don't match up the red lady?

Too me that looks pretty mirrored (matching fighting style). Only difference is the color of the auras.
There is also that time when they both hit/block each others kick (could not find a picture).
It could just be a coincidence, maybe not. Only the future will tell.

[Kyuuen]

Fisrt off dont say shit because your tiired of ppl speculating honestly your no fun.

First and foremost.. people aren't tired of speculation. People are tired of the spread of misinformation or the spread of information and passing it as verifiable proof of something.

Second actually analyze the trailer. daggers attached to them to fight you know something you obviously missed

Alright. Please; with a time stamp, point out where these daggers are.. as I'm not seeing them.

Yoshi said its a pice of the full trailer and wow theres a thing called cross class abilities and in the shirt we got she does an animation thats not from monk

Yes Yoshi did say that.. not sure what that has to do with this being Dancer or not. I really don't think they'd use CCA in a CG trailer.. game play trailer maybe, but not a CG trailer. Yes, she does have a move supposedly not from Monk, but as others in this very thread have stated and EVERY other thread regarding it, this can just as likely be something from the level 61+ quests for Monk. Or should we just disregard that possibility so it fits the "IT'S A DANCER!" narrative?

[Pells]

Alright. Please; with a time stamp, point out where these daggers are.. as I'm not seeing them.

At 0:49, when she's spinning around. You can see the scarf hanging from her left hand has a metal piece at the end of it. It will be in the lower right corner here:



Then starting at 1:13, she starts attacking him with it. They even add the big slash lines so that it's even easier to see.





I would call it a rope dart rather than a dagger. And while we don't currently have a class or job in game that uses this type of weapon, that doesn't mean we'll be getting to use it. I'm looking at you, Merlwyb, and your dual-wielding of pistols.

[Kyuuen]

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Yeah, I'd agree with you on that. That's by NO means a dagger.

With that I'd say it raises the chance of it being a Dancer, then again could just as likely be a different school of fighting under Monk. Just as your example with Merlwyb and her dual pistols. Only time will tell.

[Kaurie]

I honestly think that at this point it doesn't matter what logic is. People want dancer, and they'll grab at straws to get it..

"I honestly think that if someone has a different opinion than me, they're clearly and idiot who cannot think logically or critically."

There is plenty of evidence throughout the thread for and against it being a Dancer/Monk.

For Dancer

• A solid 10% of the video focuses on her dancing. This is a pretty significant chunk of time that alludes to a dancer only for Square to back out and say "Got you!"
• Her movements are clearly more fluid than his (which are quite rigid)
• During the video she uses her feet more and moves around more, while he remains more stationary and punches more
• She has a hidden dagger-type weapon, which is focused on key artwork here and here. While it is possible for a Monk to use this weapon, it's hardly iconic of the Monk job - so why make it such a focus in the artwork?
• The expansion artwork appears to show 1 of each job in the game (Mind you I've only been able to identify BRD, PLD, DRK, MNK, DRG, NIN only, but have counted 16 jobs - current 13+3. I also suspect that bird above may be Garuda-Egi). Monk is clearly to the ladies right, which either means they have 2 Monks in the image with 1 of every other job (and we're getting 2 new ones), or she is a separate job and we are getting 3 new ones. (or I miscounted?). Also on that note, I see GLD, DRK and two other sword wielding jobs - which suggests the SAM/RDM that we are all expecting.
• The Rangers in the summer were said to be "hints" of upcoming jobs. I am not sure on this, but I read somewhere someone said that the Yellow Ranger pose is identical to a Dancer pose in FFXI?

For Monk

• The image above where it focuses on her weapon could just be that it is a weapon of Royalty or has some other story value associated with it
• She uses Pugilist and/or Monk abilities (could be cross classed, could be Hybrid NPC i.e. Yshtola, could just be Monk)
• She's blonde, so she must be Yda? (while it could be true, she also could just be blonde). Yda is a Monk (like no other NPC's have changed jobs before when new jobs are added).
• Her new abilities could be new Monk ones added from 61-70

Now almost all of the evidence are merely hints & speculation, so nothing can be confirmed concrete. To say "I am right, and if you think otherwise you are grasping at straws" is clearly dismissive and condescending. This forum here is in part to let people theorycraft and speculate. Let people have fun. If you don't want to take part, don't. If you have counter-arguments, please share

[Mirakumi]

[*]The Rangers in the summer were said to be "hints" of upcoming jobs. I am not sure on this, but I read somewhere someone said that the Yellow Ranger pose is identical to a Dancer pose in FFXI?[/list]

FFXI DNC pose

[Kikoten]

Having read the discussion thus far, my notion scale of yes (I believe it) and no (I don't believe it) is now 70/30. But I have to wonder: suppose Square Enix will be releasing three jobs with Stormblood, like they did with Heavensward. One is mostly confirmed, with little room for doubt, one his still highly speculated... but if they were to introduce three jobs, what could the third one possibly be?

[Starlord]

FFXI DNC pose

Ahaha! The resemblance is uncanny!

Square you sly dog you .

[Dorander]

I honestly think that at this point it doesn't matter what logic is. People want dancer, and they'll grab at straws to get it..

This exactly. All the "Proof" to justify DNC being confirmed by this teaser trailer is circumstantial at best, and quite a bit of mental gymnastics to bend things to fit their own personal narrative and hype is the more likely the reality.

She has a weighted bit of fabric on a piece of cloth on her arm. Dancer Confirmed! The WoL isn't using a weapon at all, the Bare/Freelancer job is confirmed! The random guy is loading a cannon (and if you recall, they were using cannons in the heavensward cinematic), Cannoneer job double confirmed! There were Garlean's using Gunblades in the End of an Era Trailer (they shoot the WoL), Magitek Knight job confirmed! I think quiet a few in this thread really need to research what Occam's Razor is.

Honestly, up to this point they have not showcased any of the new jobs in any cinematic. This would be the first. They have tended to showcase the WoL's job. End of Era - He was a Warrior, Heavensward - Dragoon, Stormsblood - Monks Sparing on the hand of Rhalgr at the new hub. That's all.

[Starlord]

At 0:49, when she's spinning around. You can see the scarf hanging from her left hand has a metal piece at the end of it. It will be in the lower right corner here:



Then starting at 1:13, she starts attacking him with it. They even add the big slash lines so that it's even easier to see.





I would call it a rope dart rather than a dagger.

Those Slashing Animations ( instead of the usual monk animation), make me think more dancer ( or bladedancer) than anything else.