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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    MCH Hypercharge + WAR Storm's Eye
    So you're boosting the SS nin but not Det nin and then comparing your results? Either way it's still not going to make a huge difference, HC gives roughly 1.3% increased damage and SE something like 32 DPS if both were at 2k. I was also able to reach his parse without food nor pot and 150 less secondary stats and 9 dex less. My simulator also points that comparing the BiS and his BiS he's losing out on 50 DPS. Unless he can come up with a theoretical reason as to why SS is better than Crit and Det there's no way it can be taken seriously, practical results is basically impossible to base off as there's way too many variables to take into account.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krindor View Post
    So you're boosting the SS nin but not Det nin ..
    Could you send/post the video and I will forward it to him ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    Could you send/post the video and I will forward it to him ^^
    If you're talking about my parse here: https://www.twitch.tv/krindor/v/95283951

    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
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    Quite funny, considering the current stat weights were made by me and I don't give skill speed a weight because of that reason.

    Here's a graph showing why I rate SS so low, it's made by a simulator which accounts for most things.
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    Last edited by Krindor; 10-16-2016 at 07:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aijin-Sama View Post
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    If you want to go steady go with det, it's superior to SS and is the definition of steady in every possible way. SS as a stat is irregular, so putting a ton of points into it without planning worthless, it requires planning and understanding to actually utilize it. Even with that it's valued less than determination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aijin-Sama View Post
    well then i got what it take to utilize it then >:3 and proven my point.in terms of playstyle it defers you like it slow' i like it fast i just want to show the ppl that skill speed is a thing in the game and its on pare with DET say what you like but now you saw someone that can master a SS build
    It's not hard at all to utilize a SS build. It's just not a viable build, I would love to go fast but not at the loss of damage. Even without accounting for TP, the SS build you proposed is more than 50 DPS less than the BiS. Also SS is not on par, not even close for NIN. That's what the graph on the previous page showed. In small amounts to meet certain close thresholds it's good, but stacking it instead of crit/det is a loss. What you've shown is that your build deals exactly the damage predicted by my sim and confirmed that it's worthless in comparison to crit. Running your proposed build is equal to just not using BfB add all in loss of DPS.
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