Red Mage = Yda?

[Berethos]

If that woman was a dancer, it would make no sense to have her use Shoudertackle, featherfoot and fists of wind moves. And there are multiples times in the teaser where both use the same move (like the high kick lock they have).

The high kick (I assume you're talking about the one where they both do it at the same time) part, that's actually shows that while they are both kicks done while spinning around, they are of different styles (look at his final pose versus her final pose...different styles often share types of strikes, but the position of the rest of the body can differ quite a bit).

Really watch her fighting style. It has more in common with a Kung Fu style seen in films like Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon than it does with the Monk style.

I think proclaiming that she is 100% a Monk right now, without further information or clarification, is simply premature, and conclusions that say she is a Monk are ignoring the aspects of her fighting style that don't match up with how Monks fight.

[aeoncs]

Last time I checked, in this FF game the Monk doesn't use more flowing moves and definitely doesn't attack with a weighted ribbon/cloth that is part of their outfit (which she clearly does several times).

She could still be a Monk and the fighting was done that way for stylistic reasons, but I think the chance of her being a Dancer instead is significantly higher than "very, very slight."

Lmao, you're not really comparing CGI to ingame movesets, are you? We're talking about a general fighting style here. But since you brought it up, two can play that game: She uses Shoulder Tackle, Featherfoot, Fists of Wind, Form Shift as well as Meditation / preparing to use Forbidden Chakra. I know that it's easy to take the slightest things as proof when you're excited about something, but she demonstrates way more characteristics of a Monk than a Dancer. A Dancer actually... dances.

[Berethos]

No we don't, even less so when there are reports coming from the fan fest that officials have confirmed that it was a 2 monks fight. You can belive that the reports are lies or mistakes, but without being there to deny them, it only gives credency to the red woman is monk opinion.

Reports that are, as of right now, not substantiated.

I have the pass, I can rewatch the Keynote as often as I like (in fact, I'll go do that and edit in what Koji-Fox said verbatim as he was translating Yoshida). Unless it was said in Japanese and not translated fully, what was said was that much like how the WoL became a Dragoon in Heavensward, the main class for Stormblood will be Monk. That's it. There was no "there was 2 Monks fighting in the trailer" comment in the Keynote, and so far that's the only place I've seen where people claim it was said.

If it was said elsewhere, we have yet to see any proof.

Editing in what was said in the Keynote - "Back for 3.0, in Heavensward, the Warrior of Light, our trailer hero here, his main job was Dragoon. How many people main job Monk? How many Monks do we have in here? [cheering] That's right, our main job, for 4.0, the Monk. All right, we're gonna move on to the next section."

I'm checking the rest of the Keynote to see if there's another mention, but as of right now reports of "confirmed 2 Monks fighting" is hearsay, and sadly reports like that from these events end up being wrong as often as they end up being right, so without a more substantial source it's honestly best to treat reports of that nature with a healthy amount of skepticism.

[silentwindfr]

Lmao, you're not really comparing CGI to ingame movesets, are you? We're talking about a general fighting style here. But since you brought it up, two can play that game: She uses Shoulder Tackle, Featherfoot, Feasts of Wind, Form Shift as well as Meditation / preparing to use Forbidden Chakra. I know that it's easy to take the slightest things as proof when you're excited about something, but she demonstrates way more characteristics of a Monk than a Dancer. A Dancer actually... dances.

one more time, it was show in the keynote that featherfoot will be changed or removed of the monk skillset, for a fair reason, it's under use or not matching the job. it not too far to think that feasts of the wind and haymaker will have the same fate.

since honestly feasts of the wind is barely used and barely have any effect.

it's one of the thing that make me think something fishy is happening. up to you to argue and say is not possible. but it too different of what we know of the monk and i play it for ages now. i even remember the time with simians (gosh we need it back!) the fighting style is too different and like said, using mainly kicking what we don't do as monk!

[Berethos]

Lmao, you're not really comparing CGI to ingame movesets, are you? We're talking about a general fighting style here. But since you brought it up, two can play that game: She uses Shoulder Tackle, Featherfoot, Feasts of Wind, Form Shift as well as Meditation / preparing to use Forbidden Chakra. I know that it's easy to take the slightest things as proof when you're excited about something, but she demonstrates way more characteristics of a Monk than a Dancer. A Dancer actually... dances.

Shoulder Tackle uses the shoulder, does it not?


Neither of them use Shoulder Tackle (they both charge and hit with their fist instead). I certainly didn't see the Form Shift animation either. Nor Meditation, which as I recall has an animation where both hands are held out to the side, and the only charge up she does is where she spins around all gracefully...kind of like a Dancer would.

Also, her style is noticeably different and it's easy to see that difference when you have her fighting someone we know is using the Monk style, and she even uses the very obvious weighted ribbon/cloth in several successive attacks early on, which are definitely not a Monk thing. If you think those obvious differences are "the slightest things" then you have a much broader definition for slight than I do.

Ultimately, I'm pointing out these details specifically because they are enough to cast doubt on her being Monk. I'm not saying she is 100% a Dancer, I'm saying she's not 100% a Monk. That's an important distinction, but it seems most of you are content to only consider part of her style in the trailer and then leap to "Oh she's 100% Monk and anyone who says differently is wrong."

I'm just saying she's got a few Monk things going on, but she also has some Dancer-like things going on, so let's wait and see.

[Aillith]

Seems like there is some real desperation for dancer in this thread.

[DamianFatale]

That was my first impression but there's no neck tattoo.

It's covered by the necklace, and probably on purpose. I think they wanted us to think it was Yda.

[Berethos]

It's covered by the necklace, and probably on purpose. I think they wanted us to think it was Yda.

On the other hand...spoilers shared from the Lore Book...

Yda is confirmed to have a sister. Family resemblance...possibly even a twin sister?

[Berethos]

Seems like there is some real desperation for dancer in this thread.

Desperation? Or just recognizing that what we saw wasn't 100% Monk, so there's room for doubt either way?

Honestly, seems there's just as much desperation to say she's 100% a Monk as there is to say she's 100% a Dancer, despite evidence pointing in both directions.

[Zadist]

It could still be Yda. Could even be a simple mistake or an intentional one as to not give it away just yet. In the Heavensward trailer the WoL is fighting hraesvelgr instead of nidhogg.