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  1. #1311
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    U'tyada Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by aleph_null View Post
    Krindor, if hypothetically the final step in anima weapon will be i275, how much better would the simulated dps of the BiS build be compared to what we currently have?
    I only have a nin and mnk sim, Dervy is the one with a drg sim so I can't get a certain number but it should put DRG at around the same as NIN.

    Edit: Had a quick chat with Dervy, a crit det 275 relic is going to increase the DPS by 1.1% or roughly 28 DPS which puts it slightly ahead of NIN.
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    Last edited by Krindor; 10-10-2016 at 07:44 PM.

  2. #1312
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krindor View Post
    I only have a nin and mnk sim, Dervy is the one with a drg sim so I can't get a certain number but it should put DRG at around the same as NIN.

    Edit: Had a quick chat with Dervy, a crit det 275 relic is going to increase the DPS by 1.1% or roughly 28 DPS which puts it slightly ahead of NIN.
    Has Dervy by chance thrown together a BiS based around the scripture weapon? Reason being it would be the closest thing to a full-crit/det 275 relic(if this actually happens down the line) at the moment and I'm wondering if the drop in SS from the weapon forcing the rest of the gear to change would actually result in a higher weight. I didn't get to mess with the gear sets too extensively yet but it seems like it might actually be more prudent in this case to adjust the relic to the minimum required SS and then max Crit followed by remaining points into Det. Just to make sure the minimum accuracy and SS values are still met.

    Thoughts?
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    Last edited by Shinji2787; 10-11-2016 at 01:11 AM.

  3. #1313
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    Xain Obsidia
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  4. #1314
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    Thanks Krindor. I guess even with a crit/det weapon we still have rather low crit compared to nin/mnk.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shinji2787 View Post
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    Dervy himself said in reddit that i270 weap is around 9-10 str's worth less than the i275 weap, so it won't be "BiS" if you build a set around it. If you meant you want to prepare this set just in case the relic can reach i275, then you simply change Dervy's BiS set by replacing the savage necklace and gloves (which have accu/det) with their tomestone counterparts (which have accu/sks), effectively making up for the loss of sks from dropping the savage spear. Of course you need to move around some melds.
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  5. #1315
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    Quote Originally Posted by aleph_null View Post
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    Yea, the scripture weapon couldn't be BiS I know that. But cool, simpler gear swaps than I thought it would be. Thanks.
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  6. #1316
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    Wing Z'ero
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    I have the savage gloves now, ariyala says it is bis (without food buff), with food buff script gloves are bis. What do I follow?
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  7. #1317
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    Zinnia Higana
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by aleph_null View Post
    Thanks Krindor. I guess even with a crit/det weapon we still have rather low crit compared to nin/mnk.



    Dervy himself said in reddit that i270 weap is around 9-10 str's worth less than the i275 weap, so it won't be "BiS" if you build a set around it. If you meant you want to prepare this set just in case the relic can reach i275, then you simply change Dervy's BiS set by replacing the savage necklace and gloves (which have accu/det) with their tomestone counterparts (which have accu/sks), effectively making up for the loss of sks from dropping the savage spear. Of course you need to move around some melds.
    So basically this, give or take a few points for the str of the weapon, or should melds still be based on the Creator spear

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/WBNT
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  8. #1318
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  9. #1319
    Player Aquaslash's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shamox View Post
    Could have sworn I set priestly omelette. Nonetheless, the det in the weapon was to account for the relics already higher det, as well as the fact that it's unlikely we'll be able to add additional stats. This assumes you went full crit/det of course.

    Or is that something that needn't be accounted for?
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  10. #1320
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    Reis Heiral
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    Looks like we're saying sayonara to 1100 crit.

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/WCFC

    Came up with this set and thought it looked pretty good.
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