SE must be drunk.

[Reynhart]

When you heal a player at full health, we refer to that as "overhealing". It's unfortunate that we haven't coined a similar word for tanking (i.e. "overmitigation").

Technically, we had in 3.0-3.1. It was called "wasted HP pool"

Playing these roles at their maximum potential requires you to identify how much is the correct amount, both for the fight and for your group.

The thing is, the correct amount is either unrelated to the group, or so strict that you basically follow a roadmap and have no skill to put in it.

When you realise that, you quickly see that all of the core tenets of tanking are reflected in your ability to safely dps.

Actually, no. Your ability to DPS is put against your ability to survive, which is redirected entirely on the healers. Casting Clemency or Stoneskin "is a DPS loss", using Inner Beast "is a DPS loss", keeping your tank stance "is a DPS loss". If you focus on anything but DPS, people think you're holding them back, and that's just stupid.

If you find a tank who has higher dps than you, it's because they know how to mitigate more effectively than you. I wouldn't see this as an affront, but as a learning opportunity. Steal their secrets.

No, if I find a tank that does more DPS than me, it just means that they put more stress on their healer than I. The cooldown rotation is pretty much set in stone for every fight, what they do in between is just keeping their tank stance away as much as their healer can support. That's their "secret".

I want to be challenged as a tank. I want enmity generation to have weight, to the point where DPS would only express their maximum output if they end with a skilled tank...People threatening to kick tank because they "survive too much" is just the most nonsensical thing I've seen in this game...and that's saying a lot...

A little question, did you play FFXI ? Did you tank in FFXI ?