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    Just a small addition to melding accuracy: Melds are still ignored in ilvl/lvl synced content, so enjoy the base accuracy there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlyna View Post

    Consequently my personal playstyle priority is:

    SpellSpeed > Piety > Critical > Det
    Hum you're playing diurnal right ?

    As a Noct Ast main since a few months im going for:

    Crit > Piety > Det= SS, melding Acc and thinking to put +120 acc on my 240 relic

    Turning around 1080 Crit 440 Acc 300 Det with ilvl 230/240 sutff.

    Want to mention one more thing to those who prefer SS for the Benefic II crit proc: crit also improves the amount of healing of this proc. Mines are actually around 14k
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    Hum you're playing diurnal right ?
    Crit is the better stat compared to Det and SpS for Diurnal AST as well. There has even been finally some testing on this: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...mulas_and_more

    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    Want to mention one more thing to those who prefer SS for the Benefic II crit proc: crit also improves the amount of healing of this proc. Mines are actually around 14k
    Yup, 3.4 just made Crit even more powerful than before for AST.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    Crit is the better stat compared to Det and SpS for Diurnal AST as well. There has even been finally some testing on this: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...mulas_and_more


    Yup, 3.4 just made Crit even more powerful than before for AST.
    Thanks fort he reddit analysis, will read it carefully when i will go back home.

    To explain my opinion as a Noct AST, i've always played it like a SCH. Maximising crit for better shields and that fact improved with the 3.4 buff, getting some PIE because when i do have to DPS MP running out a lot faster than a SCH, even if i have some card and maximizing my luminous ether (the regen MP spell, forgot the english name).

    Im paired with a WHM in my static and we're doing fine i guess, except that she prefer SS-CRIT/DET so she is basically casting faster than me, i just have to adapt and precast faster than her ^^
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    Being the main healer of my group i'm personally going Crit > Det > Piety. I DPS where/when needed (as often as possible) but for Extreme/Savage content i strictly stick to healing while tossing the occasional Combust/Combust II as those two skills can't miss.

    To me, Accuracy melding is a waste but again, that's because i choose not to DPS in hardcore content.

    EDIT: Though, i did consider melding Accuracy V on my accessories, at least, but i'm not sure if its a good idea. Considering i intend to play all 3 healers i know i'll be expected to DPS when it comes to SCH, but considering the gear i use is shared across all of them and i meld my gear with AST in mind i'm not certain what to do.

    Thoughts?
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    Last edited by Archvile78; 10-13-2016 at 08:54 PM.

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    When I still had a static, I pretty much just completely ignored acc for my AST.
    As main healer in savage, I never had time to do more dps than keeping my DoTs up before I had to go back to healing anyway, and the DoTs don't need accuracy, so that just seemed like a waste of potential for other melds.

    If you play all 3 healers in cutting-edge content, ignoring acc is obviously not an option, especially not for SCH. So..acc and crit I guess?
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    If you're a main healer, you don't need to meld ACC imo (a lot of people gonna say you do but you don't, hey blizzard reference here!).
    The new raid tier is focus on healers check and you have to heal more that you ahd to do on the previous tier, so as a main healer (playing in diurnal i guess), meld some utility stats like crit det or SS (well, i would still prefer crit).
    Dpsing is more an off-healer thing in my opinion, so if you're gonna be focused on healing, no one gonna blame you, but if you're raiding with the WHM/AST pair, you gonna have to ps sometimes so you might need the Acc cap

    EDIT: don't wast acc on your accesories, you should go for Vita or crit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    Dpsing is more an off-healer thing in my opinion, so if you're gonna be focused on healing, no one gonna blame you, but if you're raiding with the WHM/AST pair, you gonna have to ps sometimes so you might need the Acc cap
    More like DPS is a party responsibility. Both healers should utilize their cool downs (Assize, Divine Seal, Indom, Eos CDs) to allow both healers to DPS where applicable. As DoTs are the highest source of damage, and AST's last a few ticks longer that it's less of a burden even if they stance dance less.
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    This raid tier, I have noticed, gives you plenty of time to dps as main healer. Going in, I melded VIT/PIE/CRIT for progression but the fights are pretty light on healing in the sense that I have a lot of healing downtime where I can dps (even at i240). So I remelded into ACC > PIE > CRIT with all accessories having VIT. As I get more left side pieces I will be dropping VIT and some PIE as well since our MP refresh is ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    More like DPS is a party responsibility. Both healers should utilize their cool downs (Assize, Divine Seal, Indom, Eos CDs) to allow both healers to DPS where applicable. As DoTs are the highest source of damage, and AST's last a few ticks longer that it's less of a burden even if they stance dance less.
    Yeah, i do agree with you. In my case it's kinda particular since my co-healer (a good fellow WHM) don't wanna DPS at all, so im just DPSING more often i guess. It's a party-organisation to have your healers dpsing and you've to adapt to what your party needs you to do. Since AST don't have a huge mana issue, it's working kinda well in our group !
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