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    AST melds

    I just got the sophic globe and im at a loss as to what to meld. This would be my first time melding anything to a class. I don't raid but i enjoy doing the raids as a (filthy) casual so anything that makes me more efficient works.

    So should I add Accuracy, Crit, Spell Speed or Piety?

    Thanks in advance
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    Accuracy until you cap for whatever content you're doing, and no more. Crit gives the best overall returns on your spells, though it's RNG. Piety will give you more MP to work with meaning less punishment for overhealing/reviving.
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    ^^^^^^not 100% true. on the acc thing since you cannot get cap anymore. are you doing Main healer of off healer if you off healer Crit piety and SS unless you like Det then Crit piety Det it all depends on what you like as a healer piety is 100% better than anything less since is less punishment for overhealing/reviving but it depends on you as a healer
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    We had a huge discussion about this last patch. Roughly this is how folks viewed the skills in comparison to each other (and my personal priority):

    Top pics are Critical, Piety and Spell speed. Between the three each have distinct advantages in comparison to each other (and practical game impacts). If you are in fights where many mistakes are made and you are running out of mana, then stacking Piety can be best. If are capable of adjusting to criticals and canceling uneeded spellcasts, Critical can both save mana and increase throughput. But excess criticals require some spell canceling to save mana (for unneeded heals), if you can properly spell cancel post criticals then critical stacking can be best. Spell speed increases your throughput directly increasing the number of spells you can cast per fight or grants extra time to move. If you can make optimal use of the extra movement, or translate the extra casts into damage (or life saving heals) then stacking spell speed can be best.

    Between those three you can see stacking each results in behavior changes of combat itself. Personally I do NOT like spell canceling critcal heals, and find most of the extra throughput to be wasted on overhealing.

    Consequently my personal playstyle priority is:

    SpellSpeed > Piety > Critical > Det
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    Last edited by Katlyna; 10-02-2016 at 03:50 PM.
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    Read this post about AST stats. It's written before the latest patch which gave Crit even more value because of the benefic proc (Crit affects not only the crit rate but also the potency of your crit spells, so having a high crit stat directly affects your each benefic proc cast!).

    Potency-wise, the order of the secondary stats for AST is likely to be CRIT > DET > SpS. As said, crit is the most powerful one for sure, and determination is likely to boost your healing and DPS power more than spellspeed. The stat weights haven't been tested, but certain things are known, and those things are summarised in the linked post.

    What you need to consider is if you're going to heal raids and need ACC (I don't think the current caps are known yet) and if you need extra PIE to be able to keep up DPS (I won't comment on this since I don't heal raids on AST myself).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jukebox12 View Post
    ^^^^^^not 100% true. on the acc thing since you cannot get cap anymore. are you doing Main healer of off healer if you off healer Crit piety and SS unless you like Det then Crit piety Det it all depends on what you like as a healer piety is 100% better than anything less since is less punishment for overhealing/reviving but it depends on you as a healer
    The accuracy cap for a12s is just above a8s. It's no more than 604 accuracy. If you don't plan on doing that, the caster accuracy cap for sophia is 540. 16 Tier V Accuracy will get you to 546. You may want to gear all 18 of your slots with Accuracy Vs to hit 570. A slight overmeld on a crafted ring (+9 accuracy from tier 4) and some food (pipira or marron Glaze for example) should get you through what will quickly become party finder content, a10s at 595+ accuracy.

    I'll be sticking with my +120 accuracy relic and letting my Sophia weapon rot in retainer hell.
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    Last edited by Rawrz; 10-02-2016 at 04:36 PM.

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    I will note 2 things to consider.

    If in the offheal position spell speed won't affect the power on your shields

    I haven't raided much but I do know that Ast dots cannot miss. So acc might be uneccesary in the mh slot
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    thanks for all these answers. Im gonna have to figure out what kind of healer I play first lol
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    I only put Acc on all my gear cause i wanted my stuff to hit when i switched to cleric. I'm thinking of going SpellSpeed and Piety now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by WolfKid View Post
    I only put Acc on all my gear cause i wanted my stuff to hit when i switched to cleric. I'm thinking of going SpellSpeed and Piety now...
    You'll miss those gravities and malefic IIs. Accuracy is worth it.
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