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    DamianWayne's Avatar
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    Karamatsu Girls
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Balmung is full of it.

    I main Ninja, am level 60. ilevel 235.

    I join a party finder for Sophia Extreme, only to be kicked out for not having "Blood for Blood."

    "No offense, but we need people who are actually going to take this seriously."

    So I sent a joke of a tell to them saying "It's cuz I'm black isn't it?"

    Then they took it seriously......
    (4)
    -:TT:-


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    Lilli Karani
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianWayne View Post
    I join a party finder for Sophia Extreme, only to be kicked out for not having "Blood for Blood."
    Sorry to say. But I would kick you for the same reason out of a party for endgame conten t like the current extreme primal or Savage. The correct cross class skills are important to run a proper damage rotation.

    I'm pretty shure the real reason you got kicked was for dealing very low damage.

    Check out yourself and go to the Sophia traning dummy in dravanian hinterland.
    (3)

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    Quote Originally Posted by KarstenS View Post
    Sorry to say. But I would kick you for the same reason out of a party for endgame conten t like the current extreme primal or Savage. The correct cross class skills are important to run a proper damage rotation.

    I'm pretty shure the real reason you got kicked was for dealing very low damage.

    Check out yourself and go to the Sophia traning dummy in dravanian hinterland.
    I didn't deal any damage because we didn't even do it. They just looked and were like "Oh, he hasn't done Dragoon." So I got kicked. In the previous ones I've done my damage wasn't an issue, I was dealing sufficient amounts that got the job done when need be.
    (2)
    -:TT:-


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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianWayne View Post
    In the previous ones I've done my damage wasn't an issue, I was dealing sufficient amounts that got the job done when need be.
    As I said before: Go to the Stone, Sky, Sea Dummy and test it yourself with Sophia Extreme.

    It will show you how ready you are for this content.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    Cross class skills are 100% optional and are only used to increase the base utility of each class. Just because a player doesn't have one of the abilities doesn't make them any less knowledgeable or skillful as the next.
    Sorry, but no. The correct cross class skills are mandatory for content like current (and not to long ago) extreme primals and savage.
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    Syvic Zivota
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    Archer Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by KarstenS View Post
    Sorry to say. But I would kick you for the same reason out of a party for endgame conten t like the current extreme primal or Savage. The correct cross class skills are important to run a proper damage rotation.

    I'm pretty shure the real reason you got kicked was for dealing very low damage.

    Check out yourself and go to the Sophia traning dummy in dravanian hinterland.
    Cross class skills are 100% optional and are only used to increase the base utility of each class. Just because a player doesn't have one of the abilities doesn't make them any less knowledgeable or skillful as the next.
    (2)

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    Nenemi Nemi
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    Lancer Lv 40
    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    Cross class skills are 100% optional and are only used to increase the base utility of each class. Just because a player doesn't have one of the abilities doesn't make them any less knowledgeable or skillful as the next.
    Some are required if your going to challenge difficult content, try having a healer without swiftcast or a tank without provoke not having B4B makes it so the other 3 dps need to compensate for your loss of dps by not having it.

    Its not like leveling is hard these days at low levels its just laziness to not have them
    (5)
    Last edited by Rita1989; 10-06-2016 at 04:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rita1989 View Post
    Some are required if your going to challenge difficult content, try having a healer without swiftcast or a tank without provoke not having B4B makes it so the other 3 dps need to compensate for your loss of dps by not having it.

    Its not like leveling is hard these days at low levels its just laziness to not have them
    They're not required, if they're not apart of the base toolkit they are not required to play the class. All they do is make it easier, having X skill open for cross class isn't a determining factor in whether or not someone should be excluded from content. Stating it is a requirement is exactly what that post is calling out into question.

    Quote Originally Posted by KarstenS View Post
    As I said before: Go to the Stone, Sky, Sea Dummy and test it yourself with Sophia Extreme.

    It will show you how ready you are for this content.



    Sorry, but no. The correct cross class skills are mandatory for content like current (and not to long ago) extreme primals and savage.
    I have and I have passed all SSS, I've even passed a few of them without WM on, SSS isn't even a good tool to judge by anyway.
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    Last edited by Jetstream_Fox; 10-06-2016 at 05:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    They're not required, if they're not apart of the base toolkit they are not required to play the class. All they do is make it easier, having X skill open for cross class isn't a determining factor in whether or not someone should be excluded from content. Stating it is a requirement is exactly what that post is calling out into question.
    B4B is part of the base toolkit for Ninja if he got kicked for not having Mantra he might have a case but when doing endgame content you are expected to have certain cross class abilities B4B is one of those.
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    Lilli Karani
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    They're not required, if they're not apart of the base toolkit they are not required to play the class.
    They are. Just take some time to read the different class guides in this forum. In most cases they explain really good, why the cross class skills are important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    I have and I have passed all SSS.
    "All" is in this case not a fixed thing, as you only have the dummies in the list of content you have unlocked.
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