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  1. #1
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    DamianWayne's Avatar
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    Karamatsu Girls
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by KarstenS View Post
    Sorry to say. But I would kick you for the same reason out of a party for endgame conten t like the current extreme primal or Savage. The correct cross class skills are important to run a proper damage rotation.

    I'm pretty shure the real reason you got kicked was for dealing very low damage.

    Check out yourself and go to the Sophia traning dummy in dravanian hinterland.
    I didn't deal any damage because we didn't even do it. They just looked and were like "Oh, he hasn't done Dragoon." So I got kicked. In the previous ones I've done my damage wasn't an issue, I was dealing sufficient amounts that got the job done when need be.
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    KarstenS's Avatar
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    Lilli Karani
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianWayne View Post
    In the previous ones I've done my damage wasn't an issue, I was dealing sufficient amounts that got the job done when need be.
    As I said before: Go to the Stone, Sky, Sea Dummy and test it yourself with Sophia Extreme.

    It will show you how ready you are for this content.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    Cross class skills are 100% optional and are only used to increase the base utility of each class. Just because a player doesn't have one of the abilities doesn't make them any less knowledgeable or skillful as the next.
    Sorry, but no. The correct cross class skills are mandatory for content like current (and not to long ago) extreme primals and savage.
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    Jetstream_Fox's Avatar
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    Syvic Zivota
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    Seraph
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    Archer Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by KarstenS View Post
    Sorry to say. But I would kick you for the same reason out of a party for endgame conten t like the current extreme primal or Savage. The correct cross class skills are important to run a proper damage rotation.

    I'm pretty shure the real reason you got kicked was for dealing very low damage.

    Check out yourself and go to the Sophia traning dummy in dravanian hinterland.
    Cross class skills are 100% optional and are only used to increase the base utility of each class. Just because a player doesn't have one of the abilities doesn't make them any less knowledgeable or skillful as the next.
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    Nenemi Nemi
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 40
    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    Cross class skills are 100% optional and are only used to increase the base utility of each class. Just because a player doesn't have one of the abilities doesn't make them any less knowledgeable or skillful as the next.
    Some are required if your going to challenge difficult content, try having a healer without swiftcast or a tank without provoke not having B4B makes it so the other 3 dps need to compensate for your loss of dps by not having it.

    Its not like leveling is hard these days at low levels its just laziness to not have them
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    Last edited by Rita1989; 10-06-2016 at 04:46 PM.

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    Ametrine's Avatar
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    Diantha Sunstone
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Yeah.... I couldn't get away from Balmung fast enough after finding out how nasty it was in raid tier after working my ass off to get on that level.

    Although, now I'm on a super small and chill server with no raid tier, so it's another can of worms.
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    DamianWayne's Avatar
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    Karamatsu Girls
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 60
    I used to be on Gilgamesh and that was pretty chill for me, then a friend suggested I transfer to Balmung, so I did and I regret it every day having to deal with fussy elitists that probably think their shits don't smell bad with how much they ride their own ego when it comes to the game. I never had these problems with any other games I play like Star Wars The Old Republic.
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    Rita1989's Avatar
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    Nenemi Nemi
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 40
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianWayne View Post
    I used to be on Gilgamesh and that was pretty chill for me, then a friend suggested I transfer to Balmung, so I did and I regret it every day having to deal with fussy elitists that probably think their shits don't smell bad with how much they ride their own ego when it comes to the game. I never had these problems with any other games I play like Star Wars The Old Republic.
    Balmung is probably one of the most laid back servers out there honestly can count only a couple times having an issue with someone, There was even a couple of people today who spent the day helping random people get through Sophie EX.

    Sorry if you dont have B4B you would get kicked regardless of server guessing you only got by before because people dont usually look at classes its usually assumed you have your cross class abilities.
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    Last edited by Rita1989; 10-06-2016 at 04:36 PM.

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    Seig345's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Seigyoku Cypher
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 66
    Just wanna say half the kick I get out of this game is helping others. Also, I typically clear raid content waaaaaaay past due, never been on the bleeding edge of ilvl, I swap between two characters on the same server which slows my progress even further, and I'm a legacy player on Sargatanas with both characters created at 1.0 2010 launch.

    Unless I'm just an outlier, it sounds like you just ran into an Ascian whole
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    Last edited by Seig345; 10-06-2016 at 01:59 PM.

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    Vardy Davout
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    Maybe I'm overweighing my experiences on Gilgamesh but it's definitely not a good server (happens also to be legacy) for new/fresh players. Wish I knew beforehand that Gilgamesh became the unofficial "hardcore" server because it's just stressful and tense for any new person here. For example, I joined an A9S "progression" party that turned out to be a bunch of people from a static. After the group started, I was the only one put on notice that if mistakes are made the party would "reform."

    Objectively, obviously static members won't kick each other on performance grounds even if it's clear they're the ones at fault. What sickens me is that this is the attitude on Gilgamesh towards progression parties, which to me is erroneous; putting so much blame or spotlight on one person is justified for "farm" or "clear only" parties. To me, this supports the assertion that the FF14 raiding community, especially the hardcore segment, has dug its own grave: they only want to fight over the same small pool of "exp" players instead of branching out and trying to develop a deeper talent pool for sustainable success.
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    AnaviAnael's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Anavi Anael
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Auteur View Post
    Maybe I'm overweighing my experiences on Gilgamesh but it's definitely not a good server (happens also to be legacy)
    Gilgamesh is not legacy.
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