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  1. #61
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    KarstenS's Avatar
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    Lilli Karani
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    They're not required, if they're not apart of the base toolkit they are not required to play the class.
    They are. Just take some time to read the different class guides in this forum. In most cases they explain really good, why the cross class skills are important.
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  2. #62
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    KarstenS's Avatar
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    Lilli Karani
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    I have and I have passed all SSS.
    "All" is in this case not a fixed thing, as you only have the dummies in the list of content you have unlocked.
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  3. #63
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    Watachy's Avatar
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    Character
    Koda Ko
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    Spriggan
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Xiao_ View Post
    This is exactly how it should be.
    Should votekick all lalafells then.
    Those little things are disgusting. :rolleyes
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  4. #64
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    Neophyte's Avatar
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    Character
    Mim Silmaril
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    They're not required, if they're not apart of the base toolkit they are not required to play the class.
    That's plain wrong. You can't do Niddhog Ex or Sophia Ex (properly) without tanks having provoce. So unless you go with 2xPLD the other tank (WAR/DRK) has to have provoce unlocked. Else fail, there is no reason to even try without it. Go lvl PLD fast.
    [That is... you can also do Sophia with "tankswapping" by "MT dies, OT was 2nd in emnity and tanks now, rezz and repeat with reversed roles".. but... really?!]

    All they do is make it easier, having X skill open for cross class isn't a determining factor in whether or not someone should be excluded from content. Stating it is a requirement is exactly what that post is calling out into question.
    If all your dps in the Group would share that opinion you likely wouldn't see half as much clears as you've seen (ok, less likely on Sophia, but on Niddhog for sure). Caster without Raging Strikes and melee/ranged without B4B/Internal Release/Invigorate, MCH without Hawk's Eye, Healers without Swiftcast, tanks without provoce... welcome to a fail group of lazy players?

    Also your argument would also apply to "Jobs". They're "optional" (i.e. not needed for queuing and clearing content) and "only" unlock skills which make it easier to get the job done. You can even wear almost every gear except the relic I think, so.... ? (Hint: You will get kicked without a job, too.)

    It's true that you can still beat content with subpar skills/toolkit. But some players doesn't care to carry special snowflakes, who don't realize that up to 7 other people have to compensate for their lacks.
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    Last edited by Neophyte; 10-06-2016 at 05:50 PM.

  5. #65
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    Violyre's Avatar
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    Character
    Kiriah Aishi
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SessionZero View Post
    Bring it on, Cactuar.

    I'm on Cactuar, as a legacy player, from a legacy server (Excalibur). Everyone on my server knows my name and how rude I am. Just don't ask anyone, they try to ignore my existence and will probably reply "who?"

    I am all that's wrong with the world.
    (1)

  6. #66
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    TaranTatsuuchi's Avatar
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    Aryn Tatsuuchi
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    That's plain wrong. You can't do Niddhog Ex or Sophia Ex (properly) without tanks having provoce. So unless you go with 2xPLD the other tank (WAR/DRK) has to have provoce unlocked. Else fail, there is no reason to even try without it. Go lvl PLD fast.
    [That is... you can also do Sophia with "tankswapping" by "MT dies, OT was 2nd in emnity and tanks now, rezz and repeat with reversed roles".. but... really?!]

    ...
    Hope your healers have swiftcast!
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  7. #67
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    Kallera's Avatar
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    Character
    Etoile Kallera
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by TaranTatsuuchi View Post
    Hope your healers have swiftcast!
    nah, the raise sickness would get you. (I don't get why we still have this, the fights have enough mechanics to stuff a recovery as it is...)
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