Emote Suggestion: A Way To Express Thanks

[Andevom]

Which is not true in the slightest, but okay.

If that's how someone interprets it, but you say that isn't accurate to what you're truly feeling, that validates the point that it's not a very effective way of getting the subject to properly decode the message. I only know the weight behind it because you *told* me.

Really, the only difference between nonverbal communication used in the real world and that in this game is the lack of complexity, due to all the subtle ticks like eye-movment, hand gesturing, and even vocal variety being unavailable or delivered in a static manner. Does this mean that the nonverbal communication doesn't matter or carries absolutely no meaning? I really don't think so.

Those are *huge* differences. And all truth be told, people are much worse at reading nonverbal cues than they think they are. Does this mean it has no merit? No, and that's nothing I even said. But in terms of the game, to suggest that somehow a canned animation created by a third party is *more effective* than a person's own words, and therefore we need another emote to convey a sentiment we can express in two words...is just silly.

[Windi]

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My bad for not prefacing my previous response. I was responding to both you and Radiosuitcase, the latter who suggested that there is no merit to the non-verbal communication used in these virtual spaces.
Also, am I missing something, here? Where did I imply that the non-verbal FFXIV allows us is "more effective" than a person's words? I do remember saying this:

On that subject, a vast majority of our communication is actually through body language, not through spoken words. You can still convey meaning through your actions in addition to what you say vocally.

a "vast majority" describes quantity, not quality.

[Andevom]

Also, am I missing something, here? Where did I imply that the non-verbal FFXIV allows us is "more effective" than a person's words?

Because if it isn't any more effective than text, there's really no need for it is there?

[Windi]

Because if it isn't any more effective than text, there's really no need for it is there?

Of course there isn't a need. Who, in this thread, said it was a need? The OP certainly didn't, and I didn't, either. What is wrong with suggesting stuff we want for this game?

Also, the point I'm getting at with that part of my post is not to fabricate or misinterpret my arguments. It's a big issue with this community at large, unfortunately.

[Niwashi]

Because if it isn't any more effective than text, there's really no need for it is there?

By that logic, there'd be no need for us to even have characters. The whole game could be text without pictorial avatars at all, but it wouldn't be nearly as engaging. And for simple communication, like thanking someone, sure it can be done either through text or emotes, but doing it visually through our characters is much more expressive.

I'm not so sure that we necessarily need a new emote for it, as there are some existing ones that can be made to work. Personally, I use /serpentsalute which is already kind of a cross between a salute and a bow, and seems a suitable way to acknowledge someone's help. If there's time, I may also thank them in text, but that's secondary. (Plus, in a lot of cases where it comes up, they're gone by the time I can switch to my keyboard to type something.)

[Andevom]

By that logic, there'd be no need for us to even have characters. The whole game could be text without pictorial avatars at all, but it wouldn't be nearly as engaging. And for simple communication, like thanking someone, sure it can be done either through text or emotes, but doing it visually through our characters is much more expressive.

I mean that would change the game entirely into a text-based adventure, in which many of the feats you're able to accomplish in the current game would be impossible. And yes, it wouldn't be as fun. Really not the same thing.

I love the emotes and everything, but I don't think they are always a better way to convey certain things (Hell, I tend to read the text of the emote more often than look at the expressions the character, since most of the time I notice that before I even had the chance to look). This particular request seems unnecessary because there are already other options as you and others have pointed out.