post 1.19 reviw by MMORPG.com

[Jennestia]

Again that is patently false. This is an old throw back from beta when there were debug traps in the game engine. The only effective way to debug any issue in a client-server environment like this is to return the data to the servers for evaluation. This is what was causing beta era UI lag.

Umm, it's pretty obvious the UI is a lot more server dependent than client dependent. Take FFXI, their other currently active MMO, the UI is purely Client based and there's no noticeable delay between actions, the only lag present is hardware lag or with certan events with weird net coding (Besieged/Campaign), you sometimes experience latency issues, but never with the interface.

So yes there is optimizations problems...with the server, which is where most of the interface functionality lie.

[Pyrix]

How about not having the items I'm wearing in my inventory? I'm wearing them... AND carrying them in my bag?

[Gramul]

How about not having the items I'm wearing in my inventory? I'm wearing them... AND carrying them in my bag?

To prevent you from having rings and hats stuck on you when your bag is full. Or something.

[Arteliex]

The game is still bad, don't let fanboi glasses cloud your sight. The UI needs to be scrapped, Linkshells need options, the market wards... oh boy.

BUT the game sure as hell is better than it was a year ago.

But I can't see anything without my glasses.... :P

[Isaaru]

I refuse to read mmorpg.com's reviews for this game.

[zaviermhigo]

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I agree'd with most of you said, I know I didn't use quote's I'm usually posting between classes so excuse the grammar, when it comes to papers and such I'll be typically more nazi then forums but I understand sometimes connotation is lost due to grammar. And also due to trying to get all my thoughts out right away, i get all scattered and my concepts are sort of lost. But who writes a rough draft for a forum post? Not us right? haha just ninja edit. So lets hope I didn't get my concept too effed in the b, I don't mean to offend people in it, if you're offended I'm sorry, I really tried, I might just be offensive :/

When I say Western I mean, the people more so and not the Developers. WoW isn't the first mmo, and even FFXI ripped off a lot about EQ, but in the long run you tell someone "i play mmos" and they say "oh so you play WoW *eyeroll*" so it just has that notability, so to speak. But the Western audience does want more now, and the dev team now can't give it to them. Is it right they can't give it to us? imo, no its not right. But you deal with it or you don't. FFXIV imo should of been pushed back a year or so or even more. Patch 1.19 kind of proved that if FFXIV had another year pre release it would of been better than at release. I played at CE and i've taken long breaks from this game due to problems with the game and school, but I come back to keep checking up on it. When I say Western, I mean the audience of mmo hoppers we typically hear about from the media (gamer media lets not go crazy here and think like cnn and the other fear mongerers, I'm just talking about mmo websites their commenters, and mmo forums), I just don't think these people should be captured nor should people try. I know South Korean mmos are fast, but I typically steer clear of those games due to hating dodging while playing and such (i'm motion sick, nothing really against the genre, being motion sick does limit you sometimes to slow paced rpgs, so I'll admit I'm biased.) You know, well you don't know, but I don't really mean to put lables on anyone, when I come to think about it there's probably JPs rallying for a faster battle system too or trying to level up faster or acting in other ways people lable as "western gaming", which is hilarious since no one rmts like china!. I just mean I guess, god what do I call them without being mean , like I want to say spammer people but they aren't spammers really, thats just rude of me, they're just people who want stuff now or yesterday, and feel like FFXIV took too much time to get to a point where it was playable, well yeah we probably should of had this yesterday, and it probably shouldn't of taken as long, but how can anyone know unless they are a dev?

I'm actually tired of overly judgemental reviews in general, its not just on FFXIV. I've been known to hate on XIV in moments of frustration. [we can be judgmental on the forums that's not our job get it?] Its also not mmorpg.com. It just seems if you read the comments the people on there are total mouth breathers, and they need to suit the need of those people (actually whoever wrote the XIV article is exempt, it was written well, and it didn't contain complete lies about the game like I see with other XIV articles, some on mmorpg.com). There people who say "XIV IS DUMB GAY STUPID...uh...they should scrap it" but run to SWTOR and say "omg so original looking *fap*" (when that game, I know WoW clone is used a lot, but that is just a WoW clone with a star wars skin and that bummed me out, no amount of bioward morality choices will save it for me at least ), so I just feel like the review XIV fans want (good and bad) would never come from the mainstream websites who have to appease the masses of god what are they playing, honestly, whatever crap it is. I've tried many mmos f2p, p2p, over the last 5 years. I'm only 21 so no I didn't play EQ, or those old timey mmos on AOL, i was going to school....elementary and junior high lol... and for a lot of people on the forum FFXI was their first mmo. Not for all, but for a lot. FFXI to me did a perfect job of representing the older FF rpgs in an mmo universe. I think that's all some people want. Battle speed and crap like that should all reflect that FF feeling and not the standards of mmos out now adays.

tldr; who cares, difference of opinion, blah blah blah basically? All "yous" in post really don't refer to the person I'm quoting, they're plural yous talking to general populations ^^

[Krausus]

Im in one of the screenshots they posted that screen shot was from like a year ago, way to go mmorpg.com -.-

[RedAffinity]

Casual players aren't rational, won't research nor will they care about the state it was in launch, and why it's taken so long to get to where it's at (or isn't at).

One thing i completely disagree with, is the battle system is not slow by any means. It may feel that way a bit in the earlier levels but it picks up greatly. Not to mention with enhancing jobs, and level increases in the future it's safe to say past level 20 and up is pretty fun to play.

[Reika]

MMORPG.com will review every patch that comes out for this game as 'meh' for as long as it runs.

[Kiote]

It doesn't really help that Tingle is just a troll and never actually plays the games he "reviews". It's not even specific to this game. If an MMO isn't a blatant and i mean BLATANT WoW clone this guy will give it a bad review.

It so sad that he can't even bring himself to mention the changes that have been implemented. With the exception of the UI something like 90% of the complaints about this game have been addressed and are either fixed or queued for a future update.

I'm sorry that some people can't live without their WoW-like UI, but seriously get over it.