post 1.19 reviw by MMORPG.com

**Jennestia** · 10-14-2011 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by Cichy

lol Ifrit fight, that's the only endgame content out there.
Lets face it, currently they rendered Darkhold gear worthless since materia gear out does it.
So unless you wanna grind at 50 for spiritbond, or fight Ifrit 50 times there is still nothing to do.
They did not mention endgame for a reason people, there is none.

Which is kind of funny, since whenever the end-game argument is brought up people will immediately mention "Event you can do at the level cap", which to my knowledge, there's Darkhold and Ifrit (Hard) which is done at cap not to mention the beastmen strongholds, which by definition means end-game content.

Just because materia gear outdoes it doesn't mean it suddenly doesn't exist, not to mention top of the line slotted gear has yet to be seen in mass, if at all on some servers.

**Xatsh** · 10-14-2011 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by Jennestia

Which is kind of funny, since whenever the end-game argument is brought up people will immediately mention "Event you can do at the level cap", which to my knowledge, there's Darkhold and Ifrit (Hard) which is done at cap not to mention the beastmen strongholds, which by definition means end-game content.

Just because materia gear outdoes it doesn't mean it suddenly doesn't exist, not to mention top of the line slotted gear has yet to be seen in mass, if at all on some servers.

I would argue that cichy is right in this case. It is the main problem WoW/FFXI has as well. There is absurd amount of content in both games but over 90% of it is worthless doing. IN this game all the updates to 1.19 that you could do at endgame are negated. Factions, NMs, Dungeons... all a waste of time doing now.

Sure the NMs, and such are still in this game, but why would you want to do it when you can do something else and get much better gear for the same amount of work.

Negated content honestly in my opinion could be completely removed from the game and no one would care at all. Atm the game is massively lacking content. The strong holds and ifrit are the only valid content left in the game at endgame. This game will simply never improve until they stop negating content. Content from 1.18/1.19 needs to still be valid at 1.30 or beyond. Until the devs do this people will run out of stuff to do.

**Ruisu** · 10-14-2011 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by Xatsh

I would argue that cichy is right in this case. It is the main problem WoW/FFXI has as well. There is absurd amount of content in both games but over 90% of it is worthless doing. IN this game all the updates to 1.19 that you could do at endgame are negated. Factions, NMs, Dungeons... all a waste of time doing now.

Sure the NMs, and such are still in this game, but why would you want to do it when you can do something else and get much better gear for the same amount of work.

Negated content honestly in my opinion could be completely removed from the game and no one would care at all. Atm the game is massively lacking content. The strong holds and ifrit are the only valid content left in the game at endgame. This game will simply never improve until they stop negating content. Content from 1.18/1.19 needs to still be valid at 1.30 or beyond. Until the devs do this people will run out of stuff to do.

Video games in general are a waste of time. End game in every fucking MMO ever is a waste of time.

**Cichy** · 10-14-2011 09:04 AM

me and 99% of the population

**Abriael** · 10-14-2011 08:34 AM

If you think item rewards are the only thing that makes content worth doing, then I'm afraid that you're doing it wrong.

In any case, the writer doesn't have the slightest experience of the game, and it shows. Obviously he didn't talk about the Ifrit fight because he doesn't have a character that can tackle it (or any other content offered by the patch really).

He doesn't even use his own screenshots, which is telling on the fact that he's probably just posting a bunch of second hand and partly misleading information that he didn't experience by itself.

It's a PC game, with a dedicated feature for screenshots. There's no justification for a writer to just fish on other sites for screens. Even the laziest FFXIV player probably has a folder full of them.

But after all MMORPG.com has long established itself as part of the trash of gaming-related writing, surviving on second hand information, plagiarism, fanboyism for the flavor-of-the-month games and sensationalism. This is no exception.

**Cichy** · 10-14-2011 08:53 AM

If you look back at XI there were countless things in XI that were avoided because simply a) gear did not look cool or b) drops were crappy.
Vrtra, Jormungand, Hydra, etc, were such great fights but were a waste of potential because of their drops.
What about those Avatar fights where you fought groups of avatars, very few done them.
You can deny it all you want but Xatsh is right, MMOs revolve around items and cool looking gear with content wrapped around them. In my 6 years of XI and all the other MMOs I've played every single argument/drama/joy boiled down to gear.
Seems like XIV is wasting alot of potential even with Ifrit fight which should've been a raid in 1st place with Ifrit as end boss. And with Beastman strongholds which should've had way more NMs and drops, maybe few NMs each place with mats that would make gear replicating the system used with Ureaus and those NMs.

**Abriael** · 10-14-2011 09:02 AM

If you cheapen your own experience reducing it to what kind of shinies you can get at the end of a piece of content, you can only blame yourself.

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