A12 savage World first 3 days after patch

[Pasquale]

Most people I see ain't disappointed. That's the funny thing about our subjective senses, just because you know some people who are disappointed doesn't mean that most people are. It's asinine really.

Maybe you are right about this but.. If i see a lot of NON hardcore players who are disappointed can i start thinkin about that's a common feelings? Maybe it's only luck i found all the midcore guys who are disappointed maybe i found the 1% of them or.. Maybe im right

[Greedalox]

Maybe you are right about this but.. If i see a lot of NON hardcore players who are disappointed can i start thinkin about that's a common feelings? Maybe it's only luck i found all the midcore guys who are disappointed maybe i found the 1% of them or.. Maybe im right

By that logic, maybe I'm right? (Rhetorical heh.)

That kind of argument is spinning in circles on the spot. You're not going anywhere you haven't been because you're right because you're right.

If we went by your idea that the people who are counted are only the people you come into contact with, then even these forums with "likes" tend to not favor you over people who disagree with you. But there's more to it than just people we know complaining sometimes.

[Pasquale]

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I have a wish.. People should trust more in expert players opinions , most of us have been raiding since 2 years.. They should trust us when we say this is too easy even for you guys! This time that famous 1% who were able to clear will turn in the 1% who will find a decent challenge from this! . i'dont know this but .. If the majority of players cares nothing about the challenge and they only want the drops than i should just shut up but if even you guys are looking for a decent challenge for you than i will keep say this is not good even for you.

[IllyriaKnotfred]

I have a wish.. People should trust more in expert players opinions , most of us have been raiding since 2 years.. They should trust us when we say this is too easy even for you guys! This time that famous 1% who were able to clear will turn in the 1% who will find a decent challenge from this! . i'dont know this but .. If the majority of players cares nothing about the challenge and they only want the drops than i should just shut up but if even you guys are looking for a decent challenge for you than i will keep say this is not good even for you.

I can't help but feel you either didn't read my post, or just failed to understand it.

[Greedalox]

I have a wish.. People should trust more in expert players opinions , most of us have been raiding since 2 years.. They should trust us when we say this is too easy even for you guys! This time that famous 1% who were able to clear will turn in the 1% who will find a decent challenge from this! . i'dont know this but .. If the majority of players cares nothing about the challenge and they only want the drops than i should just shut up but if even you guys are looking for a decent challenge for you than i will keep say this is not good even for you.

Oh I think you misunderstand. I love a challenge, but I'm advocating for the betterment of the many instead of the happiness of a few. I've been playing this game since day one and started raiding in Coil on the day it was released. I may not be the best player in the world but I have participated in all the raids thus far. Having said that, you're assuming that ALL players approach difficulty the same way and on the same playing field while it's simply cut and cold fact that "challenge" is different for everyone, so that dismantles the idea that this "too easy" tier isn't a challenge for others.

Plus you're sounding kind of silly with the circular logic of "I'm the 1%, so I know whats good for the 1%". Buddy, we're talking about BEYOND the 1%, what reasoning is there in blindly following the word of someone who's only goal is to preach difficulty that is out of bounds for anyone but the few? Sounds awfully silly to me.

[Pasquale]

I can't help but feel you either didn't read my post, or just failed to understand it.

I did it but i wanted some1 to quote for say something else completly different

[Pasquale]

Oh I think you misunderstand. I love a challenge, but I'm advocating for the betterment of the many instead of the happiness of a few. I've been playing this game since day one and started raiding in Coil on the day it was released. I may not be the best player in the world but I have participated in all the raids thus far. Having said that, you're assuming that ALL players approach difficulty the same way and on the same playing field while it's simply cut and cold fact that "challenge" is different for everyone, so that dismantles the idea that this "too easy" tier isn't a challenge for others.

No that's not what i mean ever1 has different of opinion of the challenge but there are Objective things that u can't ignore , it was clear to every1 that Gordias was extremly hard on the other side u can't ignore the fact that Creator is extremly easy considering that in few weeks ever1 is gonna be ilv 250+.

[Welsper59]

I have a wish.. People should trust more in expert players opinions , most of us have been raiding since 2 years.. They should trust us when we say this is too easy even for you guys! This time that famous 1% who were able to clear will turn in the 1% who will find a decent challenge from this! . i'dont know this but .. If the majority of players cares nothing about the challenge and they only want the drops than i should just shut up but if even you guys are looking for a decent challenge for you than i will keep say this is not good even for you.

They should, but that's in the case of the "expert players" being the target audience. While originally, Savage may have indeed been for the best of the best, like with Gordias upon release, those same "expert players" may not be the target audience anymore. That is, not the only targeted audience for the content.

As has been stated time and time again, this game has never been marketed to appease the hardcore challenge type of crowd. They've never released a "Prepare to Die" type of promotion that Dark Souls did. While they do want to make those players happy, they're not a priority. Assuming that this tiers difficulty is as intended (for the most part), then you have your proof on not being who they are catering to.

That's not to say they might not release Midas/Gordias tier of difficulty in the future, but it's just not something you're guaranteed to receive. Nothing about Savage difficulty is something you are guaranteed to receive as expected. That's just the nature of any product you purchase that you are not privy to before purchase.

[Yukiko]

Oh excuse me, sir. Why we have better gear in this game ? When in the end we dont even need it. No point

Wait, what?!
I can clearly remember "hardcores" claim there HAVE TO BE the best gear ever possible gated behind the HARDEST content possible!
So, now you complain that the gear you will get is of no use?!
Sorry sir, but i fail to understand your logic...

Well, if you just like to have something no other can get and to show how great you are, then it may explains it...

We are playing a RPG and its not gear what drives most players, it is to experience an adventure!
It is Character development and roleplaying... so called "progress"
Some challenge themselves with going alone into content you should go in groups, or undergeared or speedrunning...
To claim challenge is only when you have an exclusive content no other can beat - then i wonder if you really seek for challenge!

Edit:

(..) that in few weeks ever1 is gonna be ilv 250+.

Once again you just argue from your point of view:
True, server first kills who can beat all savage will be geared in nearly "no time" (if they have luck with RNG) but most who can clear the content need longer than a month to clear all and even then its gated behind weekly loot - you will not get such a high iLvL within 4 weeks if you are not in a server first group!

You are so out of reality...

[KarstenS]

Omg three more months until something new.

Uhm. The next patch doesn't offer meaningful content for Savage raiders. The next content will be the new "Savage" in the expansion or whatever it will be called.

A Savage raid should last around 3-5 month for a regular mid tier raid group.