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  1. #1261
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    aleph_null's Avatar
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    Aleph Alpha
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    Tonberry
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    Warrior Lv 80
    You can skip the lv 58 quest until you reach 60, but the lv 60 skill is important so you'll still have to do the lv 58 quest later.
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  2. #1262
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    jack891's Avatar
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    Mirajane Skysong
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by MikeWW View Post
    Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but while leveling to 60, does it make sense to skip wheeling thrust quest at 58? It seems to me that the skill is simply bad, because it does identical damage to fang&claw, but once you get it, whether you get fang&claw or wheeling thrust becomes a coin toss and you must adjust your positioning after each coin toss. Before you get wheeling thrust, you get fang&claw 100% of the time, meaning you don't have to reposition due to any coin toss.

    Is there anything wrong with my reasoning?

    If not, I am actually thinking about skipping both level 58 and 60 skill quests because I don't want to suffer wheeling thrust.
    Its really easy to get used to and makes the rotation alot more fun so might aswel get it now and practice, thats what dummies are for.
    you will only get abuse from people in DF and i wouldnt wish that on anyone
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  3. #1263
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    TenZer0's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Ten Zero
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 63

    Wheeling Thrust :: Fang and Claw

    Was still hoping for a fix for the Wheeling Thrust & Fang and Claw procs..I mean randomness..I mean 50/50 chance..I mean @5#$^%&$%!^ probability of it proc'ing on the flank or the rear...

    SE! Y DEW DIS?!

    fixplzkthxbai
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  4. #1264
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    TenZer0's Avatar
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    Ten Zero
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    Zalera
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    Dragoon Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by MikeWW View Post
    Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but while leveling to 60, does it make sense to skip wheeling thrust quest at 58? It seems to me that the skill is simply bad, because it does identical damage to fang&claw, but once you get it, whether you get fang&claw or wheeling thrust becomes a coin toss and you must adjust your positioning after each coin toss. Before you get wheeling thrust, you get fang&claw 100% of the time, meaning you don't have to reposition due to any coin toss.

    Is there anything wrong with my reasoning?


    If not, I am actually thinking about skipping both level 58 and 60 skill quests because I don't want to suffer wheeling thrust.
    Wait..wut? Dude..do the quests, get the skills, and practice..practice..practice. Learn the rotation on a practice dummy, then practice some more in Stone,Sky,Sea, practice in dungeons, raids, trials... But do the quests and get the skills.
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  5. #1265
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    Remus's Avatar
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    Character
    Robas Kebas
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    RIP our Alex Weapon and Sophia weapon lol
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  6. #1266
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    Ninjah2r's Avatar
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    Character
    Wing Z'ero
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 60
    So what are you guys planning on getting? And what is bis atm since ariyala isn't updated? Dervy's ghost respond pls
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  7. #1267
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    BalmungAzuresky's Avatar
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    Cubia Azuresky
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 70
    Same here. Bit surprised by the Alex and Sophia Weapon...

    I'll wait for experienced DRG to share their thought about what parts we should get first or atleast what's going to help before trying to take down the last floors of Alex (savage).
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  8. #1268
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    SunnyHirose's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Sunny Hirose
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by BalmungAzuresky View Post
    I'll wait for experienced DRG to share their thought about what parts we should get first or atleast what's going to help before trying to take down the last floors of Alex (savage).
    Put on gear with lots of Strength. That seems to help! :3

    (I will probably get around to it if nobody beats me to the punch, but it's a lot of gruntwork and there is raiding to git dun)
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  9. #1269
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    Sentinillia's Avatar
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    Sentinillia Emilie
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by TenZer0 View Post
    Was still hoping for a fix for the Wheeling Thrust & Fang and Claw procs..I mean randomness..I mean 50/50 chance..I mean @5#$^%&$%!^ probability of it proc'ing on the flank or the rear...

    SE! Y DEW DIS?!

    fixplzkthxbai
    You can't fix what isn't broken to begin with. This discussion has been had a 100 times.
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  10. #1270
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    xSirius's Avatar
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    Ilarnja Elasir
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    Lich
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 80
    Hey guys,

    did any of you try to create a BIS-List? I came up with this in a few minutes: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/VMSD
    Aiming for about 740-750 accuracy (expecting a12s to be somewhere in this figure) and trying to get my sks to ~600 since this is the sks I'm most commfortable with for raiding.

    Still I'm not really happy with it... would love to have more crit and I couldn't really make the 275 weapon work without dropping crit to ~800...

    I'm curious to what you guys are thinking

    Cheers,
    Sirius
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