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Thread: RIP WHM

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDSilver View Post
    The great abilities to whine every time Astrologian get buffed.
    And it's annoying.

    Nocturnal Ast can shield better than scholar, scholar don't cry.
    Diurnal Ast can put regen, Whm cry because this and that.
    You pretty much contradicted yourself here. Earlier you made a post stating the exact reasons why Scholars do not cry about shields. It's because our gameplay comes from a combination of the fairie, mitigation and DoTs.

    White Mage, on the other hand, does not really have anything else going for it. So when a competing job gets buffed, they have every right to be worried. For the billionth time, it is not advantageous to have extra healing power when the game simply does not require it.

    Everything can be made viable, but there is no doubt that d.AST/SCH is going to be the best composition in 3.4.
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    White Mage isn't going anywhere. Too quick to jump the gun and supposed to wait a few days for ppl to test it out to see how the meta game is.
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    Did you guys forget the fact that AST is retarded braindead boring and is just a abomination copy/paste fail hybrid of WHM/SCH?
    Even with the meta, I would rather uninstall the game than to pick up an AST.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yona87 View Post
    Did you guys forget the fact that AST is retarded braindead boring and is just a abomination copy/paste fail hybrid of WHM/SCH?
    Even with the meta, I would rather uninstall the game than to pick up an AST.
    Somebody sounds a little angry.

    AST is now a considerable flex pick. I still think DiAst is better than NoctAst since being able to extend duration of regens is ridiculous for being able to DPS as an AST. Noct Ast is just better able to replace a SCH in fights where you absolutely need that shield for tank busters but I don't think the extra 10% healing makes up for the double regens, though I do think someone did the math and Aspected Benefic is almost as MP Efficient as a normal Benefic in situations where the target isn't already shielded, so you can use Aspected Benefic almost exclusively for healing when the tank isn't getting busted.

    Also 10% AoE damage boost on the group is ridiculous.
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    Peach Parfait/Khulan Angura on Gilgamesh

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    I can see AST being a lil boring due to the changes in the cards cause it's going to make ppl focused on getting the balance more than ever. Was happy, but then thinking about it it doesn't make sense. For the bole buff I can accept, but the balance? I can see alot of ppl just go crazy asking for it especially w/ either AoE, Extended, or Enhanced w/ Time Dilation or CO. The Spear buff to me is needed cause no one don't really use it like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    Patch 3.4 notes: (Two or more of the same job is not permitted)
    That's only for Raid finder, isn't it?
    That, or all these people are wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    That's only for Raid finder, isn't it?
    That, or all these people are wrong.
    "Alexander (Savage) can only be accessed via the Raid Finder."

    I will assume double teaming on one class is a thing of the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osmond View Post
    I can see AST being a lil boring due to the changes in the cards cause it's going to make ppl focused on getting the balance more than ever. Was happy, but then thinking about it it doesn't make sense. For the bole buff I can accept, but the balance? I can see alot of ppl just go crazy asking for it especially w/ either AoE, Extended, or Enhanced w/ Time Dilation or CO. The Spear buff to me is needed cause no one don't really use it like that.
    You're losing more time and opportunity baiting à balance than using all card of your deck
    Except for spire every card are useful and provide good support you just have to learn how to use and maximise it in a split second each draw

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    I think there is no limit if you go in a pre-made team
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    AST 101
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    Going for Balance (with Arrow as a consolation prize) is the only logical way to go now. The buff to it is pretty much the message SE's sent out. Tanks don't map out CDs on the basis they'll get Boles, so that increase is merely a bonus than something you plan your playstyle around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    Utility is what threatens WHM. Healing can always be met by the other healers.
    WHM has always been raw healing power. If it got tons of utility too why would we even have three healing jobs? WHM is #1 at what it does. Not all raids/content are going to cater to what it excels at (for obvious reasons).

    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    ... just like when AST and MCH were being excluded from content during 3.1.
    AST has been excluded from a decent amount of content either because it still has the stigma from the original release, or because many people believed it was not on par with WHM. So, I just find it interesting that WHMs suddenly feel threatened. As far as I'm aware WHM has always been needed/preferred in the past. Why shouldn't AST be favored for once? (And who is to say it will even be preferred? The patch just came out today.)
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    Last edited by Evumeimei; 09-27-2016 at 11:20 PM.

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