Reminder On What Was Actually Said Regarding PS3 Support After 3.0

[Zojha]

I try to stay cognizant of just how incredibly lucky I am not to have had to deal with those kinds of problems[...]

Lucky indeed when you look at the wealth distribution in countries like, say, the United States. Almost 20!!!% of households there have a negative net wealth due to debt. And thanks to inheritance of debt and wealth alike, you got about a one in five chance to be fucked over and born into such a household with but a tiny chance at a future.
And that's just the worst of the worst that likely couldn't even afford a PS3, let alone a sub. More likely we're talking about the bottom 60% that cumulatively at least own under 5% of the total wealth and can afford things such as toothbrushes, train tickets and small scale entertainment like an old console.

[RyuSaarva]

So why not play on pc if Playstation games don't interest you?

well number 1 reason is because I am too lazy to learn how to use pc, I only know how to search...ummm stuff in the web, also I was busy playing games on consoles before current gen.

[Cakekizyy]

You must have better gamestop employees in your area, here they always try to sell some form of extended warranty since the refurbs have a limited warranty at purchase.

They ask if I want warranty and I say no. Discussion ends there. Swipe card, get receipt and leave.

As for loading times, they went away once I put in a SSD.

[Niwashi]

if individuals have the means to easily upgrade to PS4, they probably would.

Only if they have a compelling reason to. PS3 supports a whole lot more games than PS4 does (roughly ten times as many). Of course, the PS4 offerings are improving as more come out, and it's developing a pretty decent start at a good library of available games, but since it dropped backward compatibility it's not likely to ever catch up to its predecessor. You simply can't do as much with a PS4 as you can with a PS3.

People who can easily afford to upgrade will add the new platform once a game they really really want to play requires it, or once there a lot of games they'd like to try that all require it. While the price of the console is coming down, if there are only one or two games you'd use it for, it's still enough to turn those into really expensive games. Even someone who can afford it might decide that cost doesn't make sense for them.

So while SE does know which platforms people are playing from, they don't know how important the game is to those players. Some of them might decide to upgrade to PS4 if FFXIV dropped PS3 support and they'd need the PS4 to access the next expansion. But there would probably also be some who either can't afford it or simply decide that FFXIV isn't important enough to them to add the cost of a console to its normal costs. So SE doesn't really know how many of those subs they'd lose. From a business perspective, when they have to weigh the costs of such a decision, it makes sense for them to take a rather conservative view and assume they'd be losing most of them.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

well number 1 reason is because I am too lazy to learn how to use pc, I only know how to search...ummm stuff in the web, also I was busy playing games on consoles before current gen.

Playing on PC isn't that hard. You can customize the controls and keybinds to your liking and you can even play the PC version with a controller if you wanted to.

[LineageRazor]

And thanks to inheritance of debt and wealth alike, you got about a one in five chance to be fucked over and born into such a household with but a tiny chance at a future.

Just as a matter of note, while I'm not sure how it works in other countries, I'm pretty certain that in the United States, debts are not inherited by children unless the children explicitly co-signed on the debt (for example, a father and his adult son buying a fishing boat together). Creditors do have the option of trying to reclaim their losses by making a claim against the deceased parent's estate which, if successful, could involve liquidating assets that the parents had planned on leaving to their family. But the debts are not passed directly on to the children, even if the total value of the estate is not enough to pay off the debt.

Of course, if the debts are, say, to the mafia, or some other shady organization not covered by federal law, all bets are off...

[Greydor]

Update: Main thread updated with 3.4 patch notes Playstation 3 callouts. Added a personal note to the 3.4 (edit) section.

[Felis]

Don't forget the cost of the TV for those who are using an old one. If they aren't upgrading to PS4 yet, there's a good chance they haven't upgraded their TV.

I doubt anybody have not a HD TV yet. So you only need a new TV if you want to play in 4K. To play with a normal PS4 a normal HD TV with HDMI input is all what you need.

[Niwashi]

Updated findings from the 3.4 patch notes. Playstation 3 limitations are implied; patch notes are clear on the below topics:

a) The Clock Type setting under the HUD tab of UI settings in the Character Configuration interface has been adjusted. (Windows/Mac/PlayStation®4) [Note: No Playstation 3]
b) The W cross hotbar will display eight additional hotbar slots corresponding to the game pad face buttons and directional buttons. * This option is not available for the PlayStation®3 version.
c) The name of duties you have registered for will now be displayed in the duty list. (Windows/Mac/PlayStation®4) * For PlayStation®3 users, the names of duties will be displayed via a tool tip when selecting the duty list.
d) PvP settings do not appear to show Playstation 3 as a system for changing

**Personal note: This is, IMO, the clearest indicator thus far of Playstation 3 support being at risk. The only reason I say this is due to Playstation 3 options being reduced or eliminated that affect QoL. Clock settings are a manageable adjustment, but the W cross hotbar is an actual QoL implementation that Playstation 3 users will be without.

There have been other QoL differences for a long time. (PS3 doesn't support straight hotbars. It doesn't have some of the HUD elements. It removes the quest tracker when you're in a FATE area. And so on.)

Plus, according to the notes, the W cross hotbar is supported on all platforms, but is only half sized on PS3, where it's limited to four extra buttons for each side (8 total) rather than an option of that or 8 buttons for each (16 total). That one's a significant difference, but no more so than a couple of the existing differences. The other new differences seem fairly trivial.

(And I'm not certain what you're referring to about the PvP settings. We get to set different options for the WXHB in PvE and PvP, but the available options appear the same for either, with just the 4 slot version supported on PS3 and the selectable 4 or 8 versions on anything else.)

[AsahinaMyLove]

Im playing that game on PS3 till the support ends <,< And I hope it NEVER ends! Charackters looks terrible thin, UNattractive on PS4... no Screensize option too... (but PC have it)

ALL my other PS4 games there people look normal proportioned! Why not in FF14(PS4) too...?
I played that game like 10mins on my PS4 and was like "ew... so thin... like hungry Models"(I dislike super thin models) and continued on my ps3, because of option screen "4:3" on a 16:9 TV everyone looks way more normal weight!
I dont care if the graphics are super duper nice!

If they ever drop PS3 support I'll quit the sub/game too <.<