Feeling Underwhelmed with 3.4

[MomomiMomi]

Do people still do Savage? yes
Do people still queue for roulettes? yes
Do people still do Hunts? yes
Do people still clear Primals? yes
Do people still dig up Treasure Maps? yes

Do people do Diadem? no
Do people do Triple Triad? no
Do people do Lord of Verminion? no
Do people do PVP? not really

Rewards are good as long as it incentivizes people to repeat/participate in a piece of content. The content doesn't have to be new.

So then they can put the best gear in the game into FATEs and that's a good thing, obviously, because, see? People are doing fates now!! Got it.

[SendohJin]

So then they can put the best gear in the game into FATEs and that's a good thing, obviously, because, see? People are doing fates now!! Got it.

No, that's bad because people will ignore other parts of the game if FATEs is the best way to acquire the highest iLv gear. That is the very problem with the current itemization. Hunts did that when it was first released, people only wanted to do Hunts and nothing but Hunts. Diadem had that same problem on release too and people did it even though they hated it.

[MomomiMomi]

No, that's bad because people will ignore other parts of the game if FATEs is the best way to acquire the highest iLv gear. That is the very problem with the current itemization. Hunts did that when it was first released, people only wanted to do Hunts and nothing but Hunts.

But by your very logic, we don't need other parts of the game. We just need people to do the content.

[SendohJin]

But by your very logic, we don't need other parts of the game. We just need people to do the content.

The content that is being mostly ignored yes, but you can't do that at the expense of making people ignore other content.

And I did not say we don't need new systems, but they can't add too many without a proper reward structure.

[MomomiMomi]

The content that is being mostly ignored yes, but you can't do that at the expense of making people ignore other content.

And I did not say we don't need new systems, but they can't add too many without a proper reward structure.

And I think that before you make people do something, you should make the content actually good.

FATEs are their most used content and it's also, I'm pretty sure, the most hated content in the game. So I disagree that incentivizing people to do terrible content is a good thing. It's better to have good content with bad rewards than to have bad content with good rewards.

[SendohJin]

And I think that before you make people do something, you should make the content actually good.

You and everyone else, that's easier said than done. That's limited by development resources and deadlines.

It's better to have good content with bad rewards than to have bad content with good rewards.

Neither of those are better, they are both bad for different reasons.

[MomomiMomi]

You and everyone else, that's easier said than done. That's limited by development resources and deadlines.

Development resource that are being poured into rehashing old content. Hence... this thread.

[Balipu]

So then they can put the best gear in the game into FATEs and that's a good thing, obviously, because, see? People are doing fates now!! Got it.

No. It doesn't have to be the best gear. It doesn't even have to be gear. It just needs to be something that people really want. Housing items, orchestrion rolls, mounts, pets, whatever. You'd be surprised how far people go to get a unique player title. In wow some people grinded reputation with opposing factions just to get 4 words above their heads.